Horrified by Alabama Abortion law

Can I just remind everyone that nobody, not even the most rabid pro-abortion amongst us, has any intention of making it compulsory. If abortion is anathema to you, fine, you'll never have one, but please allow other women for whom it is the right course to undergo the procedure in safety. We're in the 21st century, what type of person wishes to condemn women to the twisted wire, infection and even death of yesteryear?

OK here's one for all you anti-abortionists I suspect my mum aborted babies herself. She sometimes referred to "misses"meaning miscarriages, but there were things which since lead me to think she may have aborted pregnancies. Further evidence- there was a child before me who died in infancy and I was once told that she wouldn't have had me if that baby hadn't died because she had as many children as they could afford. So I almost finished up an abortion figure. What do I think about it? I think she was an incredibly brave woman who made her choices and stood by them. The pity is that she was forced to risk her own life because she had no access to legal abortion. And it shows that you can legislate all you like but women will choose what they do.

I wonder what percentage of women regret having aborted, for whatever reason.

A night out with friends. Many several drinks later and you're offered a lift home and end up at his place having consensual sex but not bothering with contraception as you're too eager to get it on and the drink dulls any sense of responsibility.
A few weeks later you realise that you might be pregnant but you wait another week just to be sure.
A clinic visit confirms your impending motherhood but you can't remember the guy"s name or where he lives.
Thinking of the ties of being a mother, no more fun nights out, responsibilities for years ahead...
The clinic was...clinical, business-like.
At home, you look down at what might have been and no longer is and then flush it away.
Ah well...
You promise yourself there won't be a next time.
Not a nice scenario but probably a very real one.
I wouldn't have had the wonderful life I've had nor my precious children or GC and GGC if my mum had got herself in that position.
Poor unwanted babies.
I'll be asking my GC what their thoughts are on the subject.

There is no test on earth that confirms pregnancy on day 1

Day 1 of a pregnancy is counted as the start of the last menstrual period.

I cannot believe this has to be explained to adults!

Pregnancy tests work from around week 4, which is usually approx 2 weeks after conception.

You cannot have sex and then instantly confirm that a pregnancy will result from that sex.

Fertilisation can occur DAYS after sex, and still there will be no detectable hormone change at that point.

These things (instant pregnancy tests & pre viability/pre heartbeat abortions) dont exist.

Where are people getting this nonsense from?

Are you lot still at it?

Thanks, SirC!

Becket, to my knowledge, the governor could have vetoed it, but she didn't. I think this was all planned a while ago, so they can create a Supreme Court case or something like that. I might be wrong though.

"News media on line is reporting that Distract Attorneys in Atlanta have said they will refuse to prosecute women accused of having abortions."

"How on earth can a law enforcement officer refuse to enforce the law?"

Hmmm... I don't think the law is actually enforceable right now, ladies, b/c of the Supreme Court decision in the 1970s (Roe V. Wade). If it's an unconstitutional law, then it's easy for the DA to ignore it, surely? Nice of him to decide he will, but fairly easy, I imagine. Again, I might be wrong.

"Social reasons would be deciding late on that you don't want the baby after all. "

Thanks for clarifying, Gonegirl. But what if the woman decides "late" that she doesn't want this baby b/c it's her rapist's baby or b/c she realizes she can't really take care of a baby for whatever reasons. Is that "social?" I suppose so if it's mean in the sense of "non-medical." IMO, it would make more sense to say "personal reasons" or "non-medical reasons," but I get what you're saying.

"Excluding the rapes, under age sex by silly kids etc etc which will now be dragged out by the desperate."

But those situations exist, Gonegirl. That's why I don't understand why Alabama and Missouri couldn't have, at the very least, made an exception for rape cases.

"Considering the tests from the chemist work practically from day 1, I assume you would have the abortion in the first couple of weeks. That's fine."

I don't mean to be picking on your posts, Gone. And I understand what you're saying. But I don't think you're getting what a painful decision this can be. Not every woman can just look at a pregnancy test and decide yay or nay.

ou know what I always think ‘there but for the Grace of God’

"You never know what’s around the corner for you or those you love"

Agreed, Mycat. And so sorry about what you went through in the past. Hugs!

Sorry for what you went through, too, paddyann! Hugs to you also!

People, I know someone who got pregnant while on the pill! Fortunately, she's married and has a good income, etc. But she wasn't ready for a second child at the time. She decided to have the second baby, anyhow, and is glad she did. But my point is that even the pill isn't always 100% effective. It's made by human beings and taken by human beings, after all, so there are bound to be glitches.

GabriellaG54

Exactly

Lazigirl thankyou xx

Bridgeit

Oh my goodness what a lovely post and so so true

Such wonderful wise women on gransnet. Even though I may not agree with certain posts, it’s really good to read different opinions.

Ladies , as the female sex we have enough battles to fight already, why the need to beat each other up re Abortion?
Abortion affects the body emotions & life of women I trust that each woman who has decided upon this action has done so in the knowledge of what the alternatives will be for herself & her situation. It is not for others to judge wither this is morally right or wrong.
In some cases the lives of people who were unwanted babies can be very miserable indeed, To the extent that they wish they had not been born!

You can ask as many times as you like notanan2. I still cba to answer. smile

Why? How is it getting "boxing gloves" out to ask anti abortionists why they dont instead support the most obvious and far more effective way of preventing abortiond in the first place?

What is so contentous about that question?

Gosh Gonegirl your posts don’t sound like you to be honest.

I know you are passionate about climate change? How can this be helped by thousands more unwanted humans

I conclude that the overwhelming consensus (on here at any rate) is for women to have free abortions at any time, without having to explain their reasons.
It's their right.

So you can put yer boxing gloves away.

You can ask as many times as you like notanan2. I still cba to answer.

I must have been lucky. 5 children in 18 years, all healthy full term babies and neither of us used contraception or any rhythm method.

Gonegirl I have asked several times why people like you arent in favour of PREVENTING abortions, rather than driving them underground?

Why not compulsary vasectomies?

If you TRUELY were in favour of preventing abortions, as opposed to making women who do have them suffer. ... wouldnt that be what you would campaign for?

Thank you for sharing your experience Mycatsahacker and it so clearly illustrates how difficult I find it to be dogmatic and judgemental about so called "late abortions" when I do not, cannot know, the personal situations of the few women who may take this decision.

gonegirl never mind the condom failures..I've had pill faiures and coil failures too.My first pregnancy happened when I was on the pill..that resulted in twins ,one I lost at 8 weeks and the other at 33 weeks when she died after 4 days ,condom was my next failure ,lost at 11 weeks, after several miscarriages I had a coil fitted yep you've guessed it failed .I miscarried that too and the coil which had embedded itself in my womb had to be removed under GA .Believe me contraception fails

"what then"?!!! You really don't know?

Gee thanks Gonegirl... but if the MAN doesnt use it or use it properly, because I have learnt not to assume abasic knowledge on this tread so: the condom goes on the man! what then?

Hmm? What then?

You can get back to the original thread now.

Don't say I didn't try to be helpful.