Misreading the country?

they too busy looking after themselves.never mind about what the people voted .if australia can do it so can we ,they can stuff there deals elsewhere.

There's lying and hypocracy all round.

Granny23 that's why I'm not gung-ho about it but I do remember that was a "reason" for many to rubbish the whole independence debate.
I will vote the same way again when I get the chance, but with fewer reservations.
I am finding the idea of being stuck with the lying and hypocrisy that's revealed itself so clearly recently, has become unbearable.

There is a bit of jumping the gun going on here. The proposal to work towards a new Scottish Currency is said to be contained in a motion to the SNP's Spring Conference at the end of April. It is therefore not, at this time, SNP Policy. As the Conference agenda has yet to be finalised and has still to be issued to delegates I am unsure where the MSM and Unionists got their information and why they are making such a song and a dance about it -other than perhaps a bid to create confusion and fake news and get their version of the policy into the public domain before there has been debate, perhaps amendment, perhaps even rejection of the idea by SNP members. I should not be surprised because the standard response from the Unionist Parties is always 'If the SNP are for it, we are agin it'.

out we go its the law,, all this anti brexit ranting is wasting breath and energy you know it isn't going to work

being so forceful is not going to win it

leave won and out we go...

not on traitor may's deal, a great deal for remainers.....but leave will happen in the end. so exciting

A new poll by the pro-UK organisation Scotland in Union today finds that 40 per cent of Scots would be less likely to back independence as a result of the policy, ( to ditch the pound and use a new currency )

That's a shame, because the Scots would be far better off creating their own currency rather than being linked to the pound sterling.

Were another referendum to bring another majority for leaving WHAT then.????????.

We would then be absolutely sure that, having much more information than they did 3 years ago and now that we know the 'deal' on offer, the 'people' really do want to leave the EU.

Having said that, I've seen some quite prominent Leavers on twitter say that they would prefer to Remain rather than go out with the present (and only) deal on offer.

In the last indyref I was dubious about the currency situation but voted for independence.
Now I'm far more worried about Scotland's future in what is laughingly called the United Kingdom.

The one person I know who voted against Scotland's independence and pro brexit has now changed her mind on both counts. She has several reasons and one is because we are sick of being treated with no respect- with utter disdain - by Westminster.
There is no way at all that we can relate to them or them to us. 2 grandchildren who couldn't vote back then but now can and will.

I'll still have a few reservations about currency until it's clarified, but right now I am ashamed to be part of the dishonest, shambolic state that the UK has become.

Scots less likely to back Scottish independence due to SNP currency plan

A new poll by the pro-UK organisation Scotland in Union today finds that 40 per cent of Scots would be less likely to back independence as a result of the policy, ( to ditch the pound and use a new currency ) with just 12 per cent more likely to vote Yes. The rest are unchanged. Among those who voted Yes in the 2014 referendum, 17% said they be most likely to back independence.

www.scotsman.com/news/politics/poll-scots-less-likely-to-back-scottish-independence-due-to-snp-currency-plan-1-4889215

I suppose that I too live in a bubble of sorts whereby all my friends, neighbours and relatives are pro Scottish Independence. That was with the exception of my Nephew, strongly against Independence and a Tory voter, but even he has now reluctantly admitted that he was wrong and the only way to ensure a decent future for his young family is too get out of the one sided so called UNITED Kingdom.

I do note all the opinion polls which show a slow but steady increase in pro Independence voting intentions, currently hovering around 51/49 with the Indy side creeping ahead as the Brexit shambles drags on.

Were another referendum to bring another majority for leaving WHAT then.????????.

If YOU know how they could have been done differently, please enlighten us from your Remainer font of wisdom MaizieD

No, Day6. It's not for me to say; it's Leavers who keep on saying that negotiations could have been done better. So I'm curious to know 1) what did they want to achieve and 2) how negotiations have been done better?

I think that the negotiations couldn't have been done worse, but then, I'm not wanting to leave the EU and I'm not moaning about them.

P. S. I've also pointed out several times over the past 2 years that there actually was a pretty good Leaver's plan which has been completely ignored.

P.P.S Saying that you wanted to achieve 'leaving the EU' isn't good enough...

jura unbelievably, I actually have friends from all over Scotland. We have zero confidence in SNPs capability having already endured it it for 11 years.

There are alternatives to Theresa May's deal with the most prominent being to now leave with no agreement whatsoever, with another being to have a second referendum. However, parliament this week voted heavily against leaving the European Union without a withdraw agreement and also to not endorse a further referendum.

In the above, the House of Commons also voted against having backbench MPs take control of the Brexit process which would have deprived the Government of any further executive powers in regard to Brexit. Therefore, the only set and agreed position on the order paper for the House of Commons next week is "Theresa May's deal."

As someone who voted remain, my preference would have been to see a motion on that order paper that would have in some way secured the UK as a continuing full member of the European Union. However, I accept that is not going to happen, just as having a second referendum or witnessing a motion agreeing a no deal exit from the EU is not going to happen.

Therefore, as we so often say in our office when things are not working out as we would have wished, "we are where we are, and we have to go forward from this position." In that, to accept Mays Brexit deal is the only constitutional way forward, and we as a nation have to make the best of that situation.

That deal most importantly keeps frictionless trade through the ports open and resolves the Irish border issue. It gives the whole of British business some certainty into the future while the UK negotiates a full trade agreement with the European Union. It also removes this country from any further political integration the EU may wish to undertake, and almost all the powers of the European Courts.

Therefore, I believe that for the British Parliament to accept and pass Theresa May's withdrawal agreement is the way forward, (indeed the only way forward) following the voting in the House of Commons this week. The deal is not in any way near perfect, but it is a way forward from the political mess this country finds itself in.

As stated, "we are where we are", and no amount for further argument will change that.

Here is a very intelligent and quietly assertive woman I really admire:

www.facebook.com/JackWDart/videos/419035952201396/

Leavers full of hot air but no idea how the negotiations could have been done differently
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If YOU know how they could have been done differently, please enlighten us from your Remainer font of wisdom MaizieD

Once again, no answers from Remainers but lots of insulting of Leavers.

Discussion from them tends to be of the 'you are wrong, I am right' variety.

I can only speak for myself but more than ever, this shambolic series of 'negotiations' to trade with the EU (ie: Remainer driven) rather than leave, has me convinced we need to remove ourselves from the EU, and quickly.

But it is good Jane, that we can agree to disagree. And of course you live in Scotland and have insights that I could never have. But perhaps Edinburgh is not indicative of Scotland as a whole, just as London is not indicative of England as a whole.

Totally understand- and yet- all the Scots I know have changed their mind and are prepared now for the massive changes- as they do no wish to be vassals and ignored any longer.

I don't agree jura! This current shambles around trying to disengage from EU after only a matter of decades is enough to put anyone with any spark of intelligence off trying to disengage from a union lasting for centuries! The economic case alone would be diabolical.

Jon Snow saying it exactly as it is:

www.thepoke.co.uk/2019/03/15/jon-snow-taking-matt-hancock-brexit-speaks-for-entire-nation-right-now/

and Mhairi says it very well:

www.facebook.com/Mhairi.Black.SNP/videos/618242285304265/

Wrong too, to totally and absolutely ignore Scotland.

Agree with you annie-

but it is wrong to ignore the many millions who voted to remain- and only listen to those who voted out- especially as the numbers are so so close.

And, I am sorry to repeat, but I will continue to do so... in view of the lies, the fraud, the foreign interference and dodgy money, the hidden and illegal targetting of certain groups, etc, etc. No-one will ever be able to calculate what proportion was the result of the above- but with such a tiny minority- it is fair to say that the majority would have been lost and probably reversed.

So- new circumstances, new information, consequences known - time to ask for a confirmatory vote. Only Democratic was forwards.

varian no one knows how those who didn’t vote would have voted if it had been compulsory. There was a vote and there was a majority to leave. No one can speak for those who didn’t vote.

Like Nicola or not, but she was so right:

www.facebook.com/Channel4NewsDemocracy/videos/1243654209045853/