Put it to the people march - are you going?

Absolutely right PECS, and Brexiteers have been treated just as badly as those who wished to remain. Just because they got the result they wanted doesn't mean they weren't deceived.

We have all been treated very badly by a government presenting an over-simplistic attitude to an extremely complex disentanglement of a very long relationship.

They should ask us NOW whether we approve of the deal they've struck cobbled together.

How is a referendum, based on limited or incorrect information on the impact of the decision EITHER WAY, democratic?
If Parliament wanted passthe----buck to ask the people they should have put a clear & costed proposal on the table after having negotiated a potential deal.
The referendum was like asking if you would like to win the lottery or not without giving the cost of the ticket, the odds or the prize money!

I agree with jura2,

Cameron got it wrong in trying to please the Tory right by having the referendum in the first place, exacerbated by not having a minimum % vote in favour e.g. 75%; then we were told a pack of lies, and May's got it wrong now.

We have been made fools of in their attempts to avoid the Tory party falling apart. Between them they have divided the nation and the Tories are still falling apart.

In response to the OP, I'm sure there will be marches in two cities not far from me so I will be at one or the other.

Is it a case of either/or jura?
Surely not!

Thebeeb - no one wants a 'second referendum' what so many of us want is a vote on the current situation, now we know what Mrs May's Deal is, what No Deal means ... an INFORMED vote, without the lies and the fraud- and with eyes opened. Democracy in action, for sure.

So will those of you not marching on 23rd- will you go on Farage's pub crawl instead ;)

You might not like the idea of another referendum. I don't.

But it would not be unprecedented for a democratic country to have multiple votes on the same issue as times change or new issues/information come to light (as IS the case with brexit). There IS scope for referendums to be used this way WITHIN a democracy. It does not spell the end of democracy.

So go ahead make your arguement against another vote, but make your argument valid. "End of democracy"/"anti-democratic" is just plain inaccurate.

I would welcome any other more valid arguments against it because I hope to god we don't have to go through it all over again.

I said before that I dont want another referendum

The point remains that having more than one referendum on the same issue is NOT "un-democratic".

Yes referendums do gauge public opinion and the opinion of the Brexit one showed that the voters wanted to leave st that time. We could go on forever having referendums and another one and another one. Where does it stop? Why bother having one if the answer is not to your taste we then just have another one? Why ask in that referendum for the voters opinions if it’s totally going to be ignored?

Its not "the end of democracy". A referendum is not the same as other types of votes, referendums gauge public opinion at a given time to guide , not dictate to, the government.

I dont want another referendum, but another referendum would NOT be undemocratic. They are just big opinion poles, not like the kinds of votes you do for elections. And opinions change.

you only have to turn up to vote NOT do the negotiations,notanan whats so hard to cope with about that? Voting SHOULD be compulsory too many are happy to moan about the outcome of elections yet dont bother to mark their x on Election day .

Thought we had the referendum to decide what the people wanted and people voted and we had a result. If we have another one and it comes out differently will we then need another and another. Where will it end. And end of democracy for this country. No hope at all then. But what do I know I’m just an ordinary OAP.

Lemongrove what a smug attitude.
Accept that the country is very divided .
Decent British attitudes would suggest "victors" to be magnanimous rather than gloating.

Same for me- I really really wanted to be there this time - but I just can't as my duty lies elsewhere at the moment - I will be there in spirit for sure x and on some banners hopefully

I would love to be there and normally would have been..but am 'hors de combat' at the moment. Wave a banner for me ? I will be there in spirit.

'excersise' - OH replied 'they need exorcising' !?!

Trust, she says- so they our most senior politicians lied massive lies, used dodgy money, relied on fraud, illegal targetting and foreign interference - without any preparations, any considerations of consequences on the poorest in the UK - and they talk about 't r u s t' ?!?

... and booze at Wetherspoons at every spot of course

We asked if Nigel Farage will walk entire Sunderland to London Brexit 'March to Leave' route

www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/brexit-march-farage-route-leave-15911145

The North-east press seems unimpressed.

It's hardly a 'march', varian, so much as a series of short toddles interspersed with long bus rides...

Are you not planning to join the Farage march?

Not me.
I’m just happy it’s March now and we’ll be out of the E.U. very soon.
❤️ ??

Will be there in spirit, sadly not able to be there in the flesh.

I voted Remain but couldnt cope with another referendum. Its not that I think the first one was either legal or binding, its just that last time really brought out the worst in people and it was such a disappointing time I dont particularly want to re live that

Wow GrannyGravy have a great time x

Sorry gransnetters I will be on a beach in the Caribbean.