How can we ensure views on Gransnet are given a broader hearin?

Annie could you please stop trying to make this thread about you and me. Thanks

*Lara what about a star system? 1 star light hearted, 2 stars more robust 3 stars take cover. I also wondered about a welcome to GN thread where people are invited to make their first post and posters are requested to keep their post welcoming, possibly with one or two experienced posters welcoming and answering questions about GN, on a rota basis and GNHQ monitoring it for accuracy etc.

Hasn’t put you off trisher

Annie that's using the rules to obfuscate. Nothing to stop you posting my name, the words you objected to, and the name of the poster. However as I said it's off putting and unnecessary.
MawBroon I have seen allegations of "cliques" before. I don't think they exist as such. I do think some people just post to support other people and create 'in' jokes. For new members it's a bit like walking into a coffee morning where everyone is chatting and you feel a bit of a lost soul. In real life of course someone would turn and smile at you, on line we can't do that so the newcomer looks, reads but eventually turns away.

trisher, I am not going to quote names and thread titles , it isn’t permitted

In any case you can’t legislate for a wider range of subjects (have you seen all the forums?) or indeed more/different posters.
GN is what its members make it.

If by camaraderie you meant clique, Trisher say so.
Only too obvious when they raise their heads, but fortunately that tends only to be on certain forums
#callaspadeaspade

We have had suggestions on this thread about how GN could be changed and/or brought to a wider audience.

We can suggest but it's not our call.
It's up to GNHQ and they may well put ideas out to all for discussion if they think any changes need to be made.

Where are you GNHQ?

I don't think anyone wants to stop there being a supportive element to GN GG13 but some would like to see a wider range of subjects and posters.

Annie instead of playing the "I didn't say, I didn't mean" card why didn't you in the first place say who said what and who supported that and how? i.e me. It's all this hint and innuendo and 'I'm really such a nice person' bitching that puts people off posting. Especially men who in my experience prefer a good straight argument or discussion rather than the present style of posting.

GrannyGravy, so please a poster encouraged you to stay with us

trisher I didn’t say you were part of a camaraderie, I asked for a definition of camaraderie and gave an example which explained why I asked .

I for one did not join gn to influence decision makers of any kind.

I joined because I have had a terrible year, and although I am married with AC and numerous GC, I sometimes feel very alone.

I joined initially to read what people were saying and get to "know" you all. I plucked up to post on a thread, got viscously attacked by another poster and felt absolutely dreadful. Fortunately I had a dm from another poster that was so kind a supportive I have carried on with gn, even starting my own thread.

Surely there are forums out in there in "internet land" for everyone. Isn't it better to find the forum that suits you, rather than join a forum and try and change it?

'It takes all sorts to make a world'
'It would be a dull world if we were all the same'

Oft quoted by my DM when I was a child

Suggestion for new name:

BoringOldFartnet

Good idea?
It would encompass all genders

I didn't say I was part of the 'camraderie' (did no one ntice the inverted commas? It indicates the word isn't strictly accurate) Annie I very much am not (and don't want to be)

When a poster objects to being called a turd and another poster joins in and compares the poster who objects to being called a turd with the days when women suffered an attack of the vapours , is this camaraderie?

Yes, X post MawBroon

Camaraderie is the idea behind GN I thought and its general ethos.

Oh I agree Jalima I have a feeling this is turning me into another boring old fart. In fact I regularly think of leaving. I really think there is so little actual discussion and so much personal and 'in' sort of humour that it isn't worth saying anything. Possible the only reason I stay is because I refuse to give in to the people who I know would be delighted to see the back of me.

Grandad I hope you're not too busy today to put your suggestions to GNHQ.

Although it's my opinion that most of the forum titles are of interest to all of whatever gender, attracting more men to the site would be a good idea.

X-d posts Jalima ? I hope the “jumping on others” is NOT the intended ethos of GN??

I thought that was the general idea and intended ethos of GN.

Perhaps it is the opposite of camaraderie which is the problem? When a small group “jump”on anybody who dares to encroach on their territory?