Corbyn and Momentum

Interestingly Bridgeit, I would say that the OP in itself is much less about politics and more about setting a hare running with a contentious remark. Sometimes posts can seem more about stirring and very little to do with anything new to add to the thread but I am sure GNHQ will keep an eye, as they do, and we can all get on with our "News and Politics" discussion and try not to let ourselves be taken off course just as I'm sure you want too.

Whitewave, the Momentum advice seems to be very useful and appropriate. If more politics and politicians get back to grass roots perhaps we have a better chance of things working for all the different communities. We seem to be a bit stymied in our part of the world as we decided not to have a Mayor. It turned out to be a bit of a Hobson's choice. We were allowed to decide but if we didn't want what the government wanted us to want we didn't get certain tranches of money that other areas did. So much for us choosing our sort of devolution. I wonder why they asked us to vote if they were determined to do it their way?

I must admit I am not sure what the LP view is on Mayors. Does any one know?

ww - it's Ford Motor Company Limited.
Here's a link to the documentation for the 1970's
beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/00235446/filing-history?page=11

Interesting statement whitewave.

Don't the members vote for the General Secretary at the moment or rather, as they obviously don't, could someone tell me who does?

Cheers!

Blimey Coopers and Lybrand - there’s a blast from the past.

Enjoy yourself ww! I particularly liked the odd tiny photos of cars. The bad wonky photocopying just adds to the whole experience.

Primrose65 do you really think that the workers would think it was acceptable for someone to take such a huge pay rise when their own wage rises were being restricted? He may not have been a fat-cat but he was on a huge salary equivalent to over £250000 in today's money. Add to that the fact that the company was making huge profits and it was bound to cause trouble. It seems evident that a settlement could have been reached and it was Callaghan's inability to accept advice that led to the union action.
I thought his speech and little song was hilarious by the way, but not really a good idea. Can you imagine what the media would make of that now?

Apologies for not being involved in this debate today prior to this posting, but we have a red weather warning coming into force later here in Somerset. Therefore, I am helping out at my company (once again) so everyone can leave shortly after lunch to hopefully allow them to get home safely.

However, in regard to the "Winter of Discontent" it was not contained within public sector workers (as would seem to be the perspective of the dispute in recent times), but involved many other sectors including Britain's huge Road Haulage Industry which I worked in at that time.

Many industries in the 1960s and 1970s came under what was known as joint industrial councils (I think that's the correct title but stand to be corrected). These councils were made up of prominent employers in various industries and recognised trade unions from within each industry. Operating on a regional basis, these joint negotiating bodies would set general levels of wages and conditions for almost all that worked within them. On site negotiations would then take place with each individual employer to set local industry or company requirements.

The above system worked well as all employers set similar wages and conditions in their industries and so with the exception of Britain's car manufacturing industry, industrial relations as I remember them were generally good. However, it has already been pointed out in this thread that the Labour government of James Calahan was concerned in regard to growing inflation in the economy, and pressed the leading employers to not concede large pay increases in an effort to reduce that inflation.

In the above, negotiations on the joint industrial councils for the first time in many years broke down with the union leadership reacting under pressure from their members by calling the official action that resulted in nationwide strikes in many industries. I was out on strike for almost five weeks before our local employers gave way.

The above was hardship indeed as we had three young children at that time, but not once did anyone challenge the strike or try to cross the picket lines. Indeed, relations with our employer remained good as the management still allowed us to use the canteen etc within the large depot, would speak to us amicability and normally and we voluntarily delivered drugs to local hospitals ect without pay, the wages going to the local children's hospital

Primrose is correct in her above posting as not once as I remember did the salaries of those leading the industry come into debate throughout the dispute.

Very different times indeed.

The OP is a transparent attempt to talk about Momentum and Corbyn ( all views btw) without ,as it says, personal remarks or attempts to stifle.
Why bring GNHQ into it ( an intimidating tactic perhaps?)

There is a thread ‘Maybot’ etc to discuss ( and diss) all government ‘doings’ and this thread is a balance to that one....so far so good.

Blimey did you notice the level of corporation tax,!

It is so easy to forget these things.

I can’t believe how simple they are.

Thanks for that

Momentum handing out advice about rough sleepers?
I thought there was already plenty of advice out there from all charities involved in helping the homeless ( there is!)
Just another example of Momentum getting in on the act and doing some virtue signalling.

I expect Corbyn is aware of the other lies Mogg has taken part in this week.

The Murdoch rag The Sun printed this as “evidence” of what will happen to prices after Brexit. Rees-Mogg confirmed them.

The Sun as a result of social media pressure has withdrawn it as rubbish. More lies Mogg?

pbs.twimg.com/media/DXDs1k5W4AAsRWa?format=jpg

It should be the government's reponsibility to help the homeless.
Instead you get police telling homeless women to go out of shelter into the snow.

Wrong thread dj you need the Maybot thread I believe.

So no tariffs after Brexit. What about WTO?

Bong! Another wrong thread.

Responding to your post of 14:42, lemon.
If you don't want comments like mine on here, then don't make the comments you do.
Quite simple really.

How sad to think that Momentum is merely virtue signalling. What an unpleasant phrase that is, showing that the poster knows little about what Momentum get involved in, in all the communities in which they are involved. They believe in living* up to their beliefs.

Sorry, 14:22

And your excuse for the Brexit comment is?

You'll find, lemon, that I didn't come on this thread until nearly midnight on Tuesday.
Long enough for you to be nasty about Corbyn.

Momentum believe in getting Corbyn into number 10 and themselves into a position of great power.

Look at the link and you will find out.

All the homeless charities and street workers ( and the public) do not need Momentum telling them what to do.

There shouldn't be homeless this time of year.

150 people sleeping out tonight at St James's Park in order to highlight the plight of the homeless.

Are you one of them, trisher?

skwawkbox.org/2018/03/01/150-people-sleeping-outdoors-tonight-in-newcastle-to-raise-homelessness-awareness/

There's a fundraising page on this link.
Temperature -3 at the moment.