More Brexit lunacy

OOh, sorry, ignore that, I was distracted and hadn't read enough of the thread.

There's a very cross person here on twitter:

Alex William‏
@AlexoWah

My mother, a Leave voter, has just received an Irish passport, thanks to her grandmother's country of birth, in order to maintain her EU citizenship, having helped to take away mine

How does a Leaver defend that?

Really lucky in my family, then, as all the ones I see or speak to all voted the same way.

On the other hand, my brother lives on a Spanish island, having vote Tory all the time he was in the army, then decided he didn't want to live in the country he had helped create when he retired over 20 years ago.
I only see him at weddings and funerals, and I can't think there'll be any more of those to meet up at.

I know- but is showshow divided people are. I know many who made any excuse not to go and spend Christmas with parents as they just could not bear the thought of THAT discussion breaking out. They were prepared to avoid discussing it, but could not trust their parents and grandparents, uncles and aunties - goading them into a reaction - so just avoided it altogether.

I understand the anger- seeing one's hopes of going to study, work or do research in the EU - and finding they can no longer because of parents and older members of family's leave vote - and now finding that they themselves have the option and avail themselves of such. The hypocrisy is just blinding and painful.

That is annoying, jura2, though I personally think the advice is a bit unhinged. I might be tempted to hide the passport though!

Two of my DGS have just missed out on the Irish passport option because their grandad, the youngest of 13 children, was the only one born in England.

As for more lunacy, or sheer hypocrisy- copied from a Remain group, name withdrawn:

'my mother, a leave voter, has just received an Irish Passport- thanks to her grandmother's country of birth- in order to maintain her EU citizenship and rights, having helped to take away mine and yours.

My rage knows no bounds.'

The advice by all it to cut up her new passport and put it in the bin, then disown her. Harsh- but I totally get it.

Nothing is less important to me than what colour my passport is. I could always use my German ID card and am considering it if a passport is to cost 72 (can't find the pound sterling sign on this lap top)

According to Radio 4 its not Xmas without Stollen these days and Lebkuchen from Aldi. Do Brexiteers buy at Aldi?

I feel the news of the passport is demeaning assumimg that a piece of cardboard or plastic is worth leavig the EU for. It is a case of Mother State calming down the little children.
It says much whem you think the gvt actually judges its followers to be so innocent or unintelligent.

I really don't care what colour my passport is. What I do care about is I'll no longer be able to waltz into Spain waving the passport and will instead have to queue for hours in the non-EU queue

Your punctuation makes this message quite hard to fathom - but I think I've got it !?!

And disagree, of course.

Jura 2.
I would say sad that so many believed the UK, as a member of the EU, saw this as the coming of the new Messiah and now as shown in the referendum want out.

Honestly the whole thing is such a farce, that I do hope EU countries change their passport colour to blue when their contracts run out.

You really could not make this nonsense up!

Grayling is a patron of Vegetarians for Life.
Very good of him.

Who are you taken in by? Anyone who writes in the DM or Times?

silly ninny - really (sorry but ...)

£490Million? Wow, let's put this on the sides of buses!

Perhaps Grayling is a lunatic and you are being taken in by him.

www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/brexit-quiz-absurd-year-1-5329181

See how much you can remember.

Another Grayling quote:

For the wreckers and lunatics, another reckoning awaits.
You think you couldn't be more disgusted by Johnson at al, & then another day dawns -

I am surprised you know so much about labour voters, lemon. Not your style at all.
You are a socialist in disguise.

Whether you like it or not, Cameron had no right whatsover to say the Referendum would be implemented- as it goes totally against our own Sovereign Parliamentary Democracy Laws- in a way not even the EU managed to so so.

The tide is turning ... and no horse has died yet ...

jura......you're flogging a dead horse.

suziedI will amend that to ‘very few.’ So many voters ( Labour voters) either didn’t vote or voted holding their noses because they didn’t want him as PM.
Labour canvassers had to plead with many voters on doorsteps to vote for the candidate and forget Corbyn ( as he wouldn’t be Leader forever!) to get their vote.
All Remainers should also remember he is for Brexit at heart, no matter what he says or how he voted.

The quote from Grayling @acgrayling:

You know, there could be a turning point in this passport thing. It is so obviously an unintelligent trivial ploy based on striving for something - anything! 'good' to say about Brexit, that it must at last be pulling scales off eyes all over Leave voting areas.

She means she and her mates didn't and that's all that counts for lemon.

Nobody?

It wasn’t asking for a mandate for Brexit, the vote was already for Brexit at the referendum.If Corbyn had won the GE he would still have been negotiating Brexit.
Voters didn’t like the Conservative Manifesto ( why would they) and the election was run badly by Team May, but they still won and why? Because nobody saw Corbyn as PM material.