More Brexit lunacy

gg I see Maybot is having the screaming abdabs over Scotland’s assessments.

Saying that they are undermining a democratic vote

How?

Let's hope that Americans will reflect on that Martin Luther King quote today too.

So the figure we expected to come from the UK government are, because they did not produce them, being published by the Scottish Parliament. It will be interesting to see exactly how much of our economy Brexit will destroy.

GG, WW and DJ - yes, I know. Respect.

Brexit is not party political.

Dominic Grieve?
Anna Soubry?
Nicky Morgan?

They have more power now, having voted once against May, than they had as government lackeys.

I would criticise any member of any party who put that party before the country. These are people who have stated that they don't think what the government is doing is the best for the country and yet they still put party politics first.

Martin Luther King's birthday today.
Maybe the wallies who voted for Brexit should remember this quote and the fact that we are Europeans.

Criticise tories for voting with a Tory government ?

When the bill comes back to parliament this week, Labour MPs are going to vote against it if they havaen't got any substantial changes in the meantime to protect human rights and workers rights.

Everybody knows that Labour MPs on their own cannot defeat the government and DUP together. It needs a few Tory MPs to vote with them. Yet the Tories are saying they will vote with the government.
Why is it that these Tories are not being criticised?

I think jura like me you are impatient for labour to show its hand and make clear that it will support a SM and CU.

But I have given it a lot of thought and really quite see why the leadership is not showing it’s hand as it would be an absolutist gift to the Tories who are in such chaos and disorder to be able to turn the focus on Labour, something the right wing press would take up with great enthusiasm, as would indeed many on here.

We need to fully focus on what this chaos of a government is doing.

A lot of people are very angry about this lack of clairity and sitting on fence dj- in the Labour Party itself- where the vast majority is for 'remain'.

"A lot of people" usually means 'This is not what I want', Jura. You are totally entitled to hold that view but we do not know about other people. I my little world 'a lot of people' think the Labour Party is doing exactly the right thing at the moment - and we probably want similar outcomes. Interesting isn't it?

inews.co.uk/uncategorized/arms-sales-britain-increases-exports-worlds-repressive-regimes-nearly-third-since-brexit-vote/

This must be wrong, even to those Brexit wallies who think arms trade is a good thing.

Boris, who was called the great echo because of how he always copies Farage, was told off by May for getting mixed up between Lebanon and Yemen.
He doesn't even know which country is being bombed by our bombs, courtesy of Saudi.

"Sir Nigel Sheinwald said that a series of controversial interventions by the US president in British issues meant that the remote prospect of a quick transatlantic deal, heralded by pro-Brexit cabinet members, should now be “put out of our minds” for good.

His intervention comes as a new poll highlights the British public’s opposition to Trump in the wake of his decision to cancel a trip to the UK, with fewer than a fifth of voters (18%) believing he is a friend of Britain.

Almost three-quarters of voters (72%) also believe that the US president is a risk to international stability, according to a new Opinium poll for the Observer. A similar proportion (71%) believe he is untrustworthy. Two in five voters believe that Trump should not be visiting Britain at all."

Another problem for all those wallies who voted Brexit. Even less hope of a trade deal with the USA.

"Corbyn said he would direct his MPs to vote against the bill when it returned to the House of Commons. “If our tests are not met by the government, we will vote against the bill,” he told ITV’s Peston on Sunday.

“We’ve got a vote coming up this week on the EU withdrawal bill. We’ve set down our lines on that which are about democratic accountability, protection of workers and environment and consumer rights, human rights across Europe.”

It is understood Conservative rebels who defeated the government in December over an amendment designed to protect a parliamentary vote on the final deal are unlikely to vote in significant numbers against the final bill and are minded to wait to see any changes proposed by the House of Lords."

Conservative rebels backing off?

They are going to vote against the withdrawal bill next week. What more do you want them to do?

A lot of people are very angry about this lack of clairity and sitting on fence dj- in the Labour Party itself- where the vast majority is for 'remain'.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jan/14/jeremy-corbyn-labour-vote-against-eu-withdrawal-bill

Tom Brake MP LibDem Shadow Brexit Minister writes-

"Parliament is back in full swing and Brexit Bills again dominate the parliamentary timetable. This week, MPs have been debating the customs and trade bills and next week will be the next stage of the EU (Withdrawal) bill.

The Liberal Democrats opposed both these bills – but, as part of the debate, we will be seeking to secure a couple of critical changes. They want to ensure that the Government assesses the impact of either an agreement or ‘no deal’ on the UK economy and the regions and publish the assessment before a vote in Parliament. If Parliament rejects the agreement or the ‘no deal’ option, the Government must revoke Article 50 and exit from Brexit or seek an extension to Article 50 to enable further negotiations with the EU to take place ( amendment NC11).

Without these amendments, there can be no ‘meaningful’ vote in Parliament and Parliamentarians would be left with the PM’s ‘like it or lump it’ choice of a very bad deal or no deal at all. Neither are acceptable to the Liberal Democrats nor should they be to any MP of any other political persuasion! So please, contact your MP today.You’ll find full details of the amendment – and how to contact your MP here: libdems.org.uk/amend-the-bill"

The fraudster won't have any money to spend on it, though.

Tony Robinson tweeted

“It is now clear that a trade deal with the USA will take years and ultimately be in their favour not ours. If we leave the EU we will be friendless, isolated and skint. Our only hope is a Labour leadership which supports a single market and customs union.”

Of course the fraudster is keen to have a second referendum because the stunt he pulled last time of lying throughout the campaign he thinks can be pulled off a second time because he thinks the voters are idiots.

So he will promise anything that appears to be what the voter wants, like money to the NHS, single market etc.

With the fraudster admitting that remain is winning the argument, UKIP being shown for what it is really about, and that Brexit could well be reversed, Labour moving swiftly in the right direction, the Tory remain MPs feeling their strength and rightness of argument, as well as the knowledge that the Brexiters are definately in the back foot I haven’t felt so optimistic since the referendum.

Hoorah to save our country!!!

The loony right likes nothing better than division.

Who said

“A divided country never succeeds” ?

Was it Lincoln?

I do think that the argument is being won though. Brexiters have no argument to counter remain’s points any more other than calling people names and the same tired nonsense which has been shown for the falsehood it is.

I am hopeful that this will gradually spread first with the more savvy politically aware folk and later to those poor folk who will gradually be hit more and more by the impact of Brexit.

I loved what she said about trump, being quite relaxed about the fact that he will not come here until the British learn to love him.