How much will a flight cost after Brexit?

Oldwoman70
We have at least one member who loves to inform us that she knows someone in this department/ that department.

petra If that is the case isn't the person who works in the department/departments breaking confidentiality? I seem to recall civil servants have to sign some sort of form in that respect.

For once I love what Tony Blair is saying today CANCEL BREXIT ......yipee the first sensible piece of advice so far ......

It's just a pity that he is saying it and not a well respected leader saying it.

It does well to listen to what he is saying though.

Blair is remembered only for the Iraq war - although at the time the Iraqi people were happy enough to topple Sadam - however he did many good things at home and does have the interests of the U.K in mind - he understands how things work and has dealt with these institutions.

Please don't try to teach me how to suck eggs Oldwoman70. Why do you assume I only discuss politics on GN? You do not know how politically active I am, but I can tell you that I do contact my MP about issues that concern me. And my local councillor. I am also a member of several groups that lobby for various causes that I believe in. Perhaps some of us are better informed than others because they take the time to look behind the headlines and sound bites.

petra as someone known to her friends as the eternal optimist, I don't regard myself as pessimistic about Brexit. I call it being realistic.

And Tony Blair is not saying cancel Brexit. If you're interested you can read what he does say here

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WKF As I don't suck eggs I wouldn't dream of attempting to teach you do to so. I am pleased you are politically active, the point I was trying to make was the apparent assumption by some that the government consults various forums in order to formulate policy.

No matter how well read someone is there is no way they can know the full details of the EU negotiations (or anything else) simply because these are not published.

Being either optimistic or pessimistic won't change any outcome but will make your life in general be happier.Nothing is worse for a person than agonising over details of things that are not in your own control.
However, dashing around like Henny Penny...the sky is going to fall in!( or the skies will be empty for months, no planes!) is going way, way too far!

Sorry, first sentence was unclear.....being optimistic is good for you.
Realism is good too, and as I have always thought leaving the EU would not be easy ( but is doable) I don't dwell in fantasy land about outcomes.
We will do it though, and see no reason to think that life as we know it will end badly, it's exciting to make the changes that we as a country want to.

Well said Roses.

No one KNOWS the outcomes of the various negotiations taking place, nor will we know the effects until the deals are done, the lawyers have fine tweaked things and the papers are signed.

Worrying about what might be isn't wise. It never is. It's certainly no good for your health!

We all want the best outcome, in all aspects of leaving the EU. Well, most of us do. (Some want disaster, you can read it in so many column inches.) I agree Roses that we can also be excited that the changes will be the UK interests, no matter how much EU bureaucrats want to penalise us.

We have the right to leave and move forwards without EU shackles, interference and costs.

Speculating (because it is all speculation about what will happen) serves no real purpose. People are paid huge amounts of money to do the negotiating on our behalf.

It's a shame it cannot be done and dusted quickly so we can all move forward. I appreciate it's a massive undertaking but the acrimony from many who want to stay isn't going away.

All we can do is not buy into their gloomy speculation.

Why do you keep on about the EU penalising the UK when that is completely untrue? They are only requiring that money already agreed will be paid and any debts honoured. They are also defending the rights of citizens whether EU or UK - something the UK govt wishes to demolish!

Not buying into it doesn't mean it isn't real Day6 and won't make it go away.
The airlines in question have been operating successfully and given a valuable service providing flights to the EU. Moving operations out of the UK must have an effect on things and waiting for the agreements to be signed will be bad for business.
We have the right to leave and move forwards without EU shackles, interference and costs.
We also move forward without ,research links, terror and crime cooperation, arts and heritage funding and many other EU benefits. We have effectively chucked the baby out with the bathwater.

Violette whitewave Welshwife

I think that Tony Blair can say what he likes but people will take little notice of his utterings because they lost all trust in him years ago.

But are they moving operations out of the UK?
I thought that the Austrian hub is apparently to be in addition to not instead of the UK HQ.

Firms expand all the time.

Do you really think that the hundreds of other EU airlines that fly to the UK on a daily basis are going to stop flying there? Of course, not.

easyJet are not closing their UK headquarters down at all - merely opening Austrian headquarters to make it easier to control all their hubs based in EU countries.

Also I completely fail to see how Ryanair would be affected since they are an Irish airline headquartered in Ireland, which I am pretty sure has no plan to leave the EU any time soon.

Talk about scaremongering...!!

And - prices will probably go up anyway as some of the prices are simply unsustainable unless wages/running costs/fuel costs are kept at the same levels.

Do we want fairer wages for the staff or to continue with ludicrously low fares?

Well you must have missed Junker's bile not so long ago. Apparently English won't be the second language in Europe because of us having the temerity to leave! That was in the news a while ago and caused a few laughs. Just one example of sour grapes.

Not only that politicians involved in Brussels negotiations have said it's not in the EU's interest to allow us to get out easily. Cannot remember which one (can see his face, cannot put a name to it!) said that on a news programme just the other day.

I agree that existing agreements have to be honoured. I have no quibble with that but the news coming out of Brussels is always going to be biased depending on which side of the fence one stands. It's in the interests of the EU establishment that a worse-case scenario is the order of the day. They have to protect their Union and do their utmost to scare off any other would-be defectors.

I can understand why they don't want to make it easy for us to walk away.

I really don't know how all the other countries in the world who are not in the EU manage without being bossed around by a political organisation they never signed up!!!!

Ryan Air say they will locate their head office out of the UK-I will boycott them and help to put them out of business
Easy Jet say they will locate their head office out of the UK- I will boycott them and help to put them out of business
Richard Branson- the biggest supporter of Remain there is- loves the UK so much that he has been a tax exile for many years and has his company's head office in Switzerland (another NOB EU country)- I will boycott his company.

Support British companies only after Brexit - use them or lose them, folks.

Did you read any of the reports of the meeting or what the airline bosses etc are saying?
None of them have said that they wish to pull out of the U.K. BUT that EU regulations mean they have to have certain proportions of EU citizens on the boards etc - may affect BA that one - and bases in the EU - and it is the actual flying through EU airspace which could be the problem.

They are hoping that some sort of agreement is reached before March 2018 when 2019 schedules are decided upon.

sorry, non EU country. nob!!!!!!!!

OFFS There has to be a legal agreement. It is nothing to do with wanting to fly. Whilst we were in the EU we operated under their terms, now we are out we have to make different agreements, and if they aren't completed on time there won't be flights whatever the airlines want.
That's why easy jet have relocated to Austria, because easyJet Austria will be able to operate throughout the EU no matter what the situation with the UK.
Ryan Air have pointed out what will happen if the UK agreement is not completed by Sept 2018. They will operate flights between Eire and the EU because Eire is in the EU.
It's not scaremongering it's looking at the situation, seeing the pitfalls and pointing them out, in the hope they might be avoided.
I do wonder about some people who voted in the referendum but can't get their heads around a few simple facts.

Not buying into it doesn't mean it isn't real Day6 and won't make it go away.

Trisher, a remark taken out of context and flippant. Other than derision, what point are you trying to make?

I am not buying into the hellish post-Brexit picture some are trying to paint, as though they have powers to see into the future and KNOW for sure that it will be awful. Only fools would accept that version as gospel.

The EU negotiations to leave ARE real, and no, they won't go away. Yes, they are likely to be complex and long-drawn out. Why on earth would anyone, Remainers or Leavers, delude themselves they are going away????

My point is that we will have to wait and see what agreements are reached. Speculation and doom and gloom mongering serve no purpose. Explain how they do?

But I have not heard that they are relocating

Relocating means closing in one area and moving to another.
That is not what Easyjet are doing.
They are opening an additional hub

There is a difference

The establishment of the new hub will create new jobs in Austria, but the airline asserted "no jobs will move from the UK to Austria" and that "nothing will change" from the perspective of passengers.

I do wonder about some people who voted in the referendum but can't get their heads around a few simple facts.

Quite