Jen, are you claiming a Home Secretary can reduce police numbers without a squeak from the PM or the cabinet ?
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Can we really Trust Teresa May with a blank cheque?
(656 Posts)‘We need to seriously remind ourselves that we are being asked to cast a vote that will affect not just our lives today, but the future of generations to come’.
I desire a fairer and decent society, one that does not impose severe austerity packages on low and middle earners and so many young families. In fact, for most of us the quality of life for our own grandchildren and their prospects and safe future."
I am deeply worried about giving Teresa May and many of her RW extremists a blank cheque to do what ever they want over the next five years. I am not assured at present that we can trust her and the extreme dogma of many of her MP's. We have no guarantee she will be in office for the full term, look what happened to Maggie.
Her unwillingness to inform the Country what Brexit will mean if she gets her on way with the EU and she is not even prepared to debate her election policies on TV for us all to hear and give our approval,or dissent is worrying. Forget about Corbyn that is a red herring excuse given to protect her from facing the camera's and the Nations scrutiny.
Her term in office at the Home Office has not been the brightest for any leading conservative minister, nor as her ability been questioned to the full to be able to lead our nation through the trouble waters likely to be ahead after Brexit, her ability is still an important unknown factor.
No, I cannot fully put my trust in her at present, I need to have far greater assurances far better than the rude way she behaved at the dispatch box and at the rostrum outside number 10 last week.
We need to be quite clear the election is NOT on Brexit it is on policies for healing and improving the quality of life of the nation over the next five years. I want a bright future for my grandchildren, I am not sure that Teresa May knows how to achieve that with her political dogma, or that I can presently 100% trust her without her being willing to debate her policies in front of the Nation. She is possibly more worried about Nicola Sturgeon than Jeremy Corbyn.. A landslide victory is likely to send the wrong messages to her backbenchers for more draconian policies and I do not believe that is what the nation needs for our grandchildrens future. I am therefore coming round to voting Lib Dem.
That is not what the Manchester Chief Constable said rose
Most of them are whizzing by in cars ww the old days are long gone.
Yes I heard that DJ - alarming isn't it?
skwawkbox.org/2017/06/04/huge-senior-police-officer-says-may-lying-re-police-nossecurity-ge17-kirkham/
Do I believe this policeman in London, or your son in law, roses?
Listen to it right to the end.
By the way, the interview is on skynews, so quite okay to hear.
I actually think that you are wrong about "ordinary coppers" rose
Nothing replaces the eyes and ears of a copper on the beat. They are our first line of defence
May as Home Secretary cut police numbers by 20000 and relaxed entry point rules and goodness knows who came in during that period -no one knows. She only put back the measures when she was found out.
Her period as Home Secretary was found wanting. No doubt about it.
May was home secretary before she became PM. She did badmouth the police, so much that she was booed offstage at the Police Federation conference in 2012. They wanted her to resign.
Saying that she only did what the Cabinet told her to do, that the Cabinet made the decision to cut the police numbers, is utter hypocrisy. She does not believe in collective responsibility. She is disagreeing daily with what the Cabinet says still.
Fallon says there will be no tax rise; May does not support him.
Johnson says there will be no tax rises; May disagrees with him.
Haha! Any post I make is pounced on by you GGM2 but actually, our policeman SIL said the remark about ordinary coppers, which I agree with.You could have more police around, always a good thing for general crime, but what is really needed is more money to be now put in to counter terrorism units and intelligence.
May hasn't 'bad mouthed' the police.....what an extraordinary thing to say, the Cabinet have cut public spending across the board and the police fall into this area.
I think that is a very dogmatic statement RAR when we none of us have any extensive knowledge about the issues. My, hopefully, less arrogant opinion is that returning the police to the numbers deemed necessary in the past would at least help. It is the ordinary police that collect the basic intelligence and that seems to be exactly what we are missing.
Increasing armed police comes with this as they are drawn from the 'ordinary coppers' as you chose to call them. Pretty extraordinary in my view.
This government, by slashing the numbers of police and then claiming kudos for increasing by half the numbers slashed; by May's badmouthing of them over many years and by a complete lack of understanding of ordinary lives, have a lot to answer for.
France has two police forces. The "Gendarmerie Nationale" is a hybrid police force and army. It's a totally different situation from the UK.
The police simply don't have the resources to investigate potential terrorist networks or build up local knowledge to help prevent attacks in the first place.
In any case ordinary coppers won't make any difference at all.
So, when the French put 10,000 soldiers on the streets and trains in Paris, after the terror attack, that was because of police shortages ? No, it wasn't.
May should not be given a blank cheque because
She has flipped flopped so much on social care no one is really clear where she stands any more
She is unclear about taxation.
She has made some real and profound errors regarding to Brexit
As Home Secretary she relaxed border controls to the extent that she had no idea who was entering Britain
Failed conspicuously even in her own terms to get to grips with immigration
Cut police numbers to below what was considered was needed to secure our safety. - this is why the army was needed after Manchester
nhap.org/national-health-action-party-launches-2017-election-manifesto/
This is why May should not be given a blank cheque.
I have a feeling it will be a long time before IDS stops seeing recording of that.
The Conservatives have said they will suspend campaigning today.
Can we trust Theresa May - NO absolutely NO
This is an interesting website.
Put in your postcode and find out what your NHS needs, what is proposed at the moment by the Tory government, and which party will help the NHS most in your area.
healthcheck.nhsfunding.info/
Freudian slip?
Did anyone else see IDS saying, "What we are trying to get away with in the manifesto...."?
'A key part of May's relaunch was her lavish praise for the NHS: “The NHS is the essence of solidarity in our UK: the institution that binds us all together; a symbol of our commitment to each other; between young and old, those who have and have not, the healthy and the sick”.
But the harsh reality is that the NHS is in real trouble and today a new report by the Royal College of Surgeons says the number of patients waiting six months or more for surgery has tripled over the past four years in England. In March, nearly 130,000 people had been waiting for operations after being referred by a consultant, compared with 45,000 in March 2013.
And it’s not just hospitals, it’s schools that are really feeling the effect of cuts. One cash-strapped primary school in London has asked pupils to vacuum classrooms at the end of the day because they can’t afford to replace a cleaner.'
She's such a hypocrite.
If May does get back in, there might be some good to come out of it.
inews.co.uk/opinion/editor/philip-hammond-toast-whether-may-triumphs-not/
This is a comparison of Labour and Tory manifestos, for those who haven't had any election propaganda.
kittysjones.wordpress.com/2017/06/01/a-comparison-of-labour-and-conservative-manifestos-class/
The Tories are NOT putting in extra money to either the NHS or education. Neil could not extract that promise from Maybot however hard he tried.
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