How to vote tactically (spreadsheet)

All well and good. In an ideal world it this wouldn't happen would it Lucky, however sitting on the fence and having two or three parties trying to govern is a total mess. The labour party and the liberals are a mess. To "tactical vote" is also a mess in the making. As everyone knows Im hugely working class but don't have a party that doesn't make me laugh (in a very bad way) so it has to be conservative at the moment to get us through leaving the EU and May can do that. Everything else can wait.

Oh yes! I certainly do!

Independent, so his battle cry was "Power to the people"!

Germany has made a total mess over the last 70 years?

I assume you realise that Merkel has never had a majority.

Hans-Dietrich Genscher, one of the most influential post-war European politicians in foreign policy, belonged to a party which has never had anything like a majority.

Churchill led a coalition government during the war and did a reasonable job.

Not sure why you feel that anyone that doesn't want to be part of a "club" shouldn't want to work with others of the same ideals. now that's weird.

Germany started the EU for their own gains.

How many other countries have prospered under the EU? Spain, er no. Greece, er no. France, the sit on the fence country, played it. Who else? umm let me think?

however I'm sure you knew exactly what I meant.
Well I didn't know exactly

Unless you mean cliques within clubs which does happen.

Great, so you did know then.

A "club" is a clique just a different spelling.

Louise Irvine standing again against Hunt for the NHA.

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I think you should do some history revision saak. The US supported the founding of the original European Coal and Steel Community of France, Germany, Italy and the Benelux countries to facilitate trade and avoid a European wasteland, because it needed a market for its own exports. Germany was still a wreck in the 1950s. The UK could have done the same, if it had been more forward-thinking.

You know whats wrong, you know why there was a brexit vote yet you still keep banging on and never admit that you are affluent and want it to stay that way. Durhamjen does not live in Durham, if she did she would want the same as any other working class person.

Not so sure that's such a good idea dj. Labour has already said it won't fight JH's seat, so that the opposition vote isn't split. The Greens are expected to stand down too.

If you mean me saak, you couldn't be more wrong! .

Durham is a county, as well as a city.

What's wrong with you saak? Nearly all of us are working class. To think otherwise is reverse snobbery.

Well if so I don't get you at all, I really don't. You should be fighting for working class people to be able to earn a good living instead of wanting vast immigration that stops this happening, pushes down live-able wages and quite frankly exploits everyone, resulting in the elite becoming richer by the minute. I'm pretty ashamed of you now.

What does any other working class person want?
They don't all think like you, saaki.
I know working class who vote Labour, Libdem, Tory and Green Party. Don't know any who vote ukip, unless that's you, saaki.

What the heck are you going on about saak?

Didn't your pigeon win first prize? Did Paul Nuttall forget to give you your flat cap back? By the way, I think there's an updated version of the Kipper handbook.

Class warfare is just sooo twentieth century!

This may be easier for some You just select your constituency from a drop-down list and it searches for you.

Oh dear saak I see we have another one who not only has an opinion but believes it is the only one that is right. Your opinion is not fact saak - I would argue it does not even appear to be based on fact.

You appear to have a very large chip on your shoulder about "clubs". I wonder if you have wound people in them up by insisting they do things your way as you are trying to insist with Gransnetters.

Durhamjen does not live in Durham, if she did she would want the same as any other working class person.

Are there only working class people in Durham? I'd have thought like most areas it has a mixed population

...As everyone knows Im hugely working class ...

What does that actually mean Saak?

May is not interested in Brexit in the way you are. Her aim is, as a Conservative Richard Murphy explains* that:
Like all neoliberals her one goal is to push back the state and increase inequality. And that is what she has the chance to do.
The so-called Great Repeal Bill, with its Henry VIII clauses that will deny accountability, will reduce employee and environmental rights, harm the protection for those with disabilities (as if that could still be imagined), diminish universal rights to health care, harm security in old age, damagingly bias markets in favour of big business and foreign owned companies, remove legal protections, probably claw back against LGBT rights, undermine social stability and encourage the break up of the Union. But none if this will matter to May. She will have fostered the self interest of the few, increased their access to the state as a means for appropriating its common wealth for privategain and will have put in place mechanisms that will be contractually hard for successors to unwind. That is the goal.

Why would you wish the principles of the Conservatives on the "working class"? It would be understandable if you were actually going to get the Brexit you so believe in but May will not give you that - she cannot.

*Under the smokescreen of Brexit Theresa May is pursuing class warfare

Is that a different Richard Murphy to the one on taxresearch, because he claims to have never voted conservative.
He's green through and through.

That's a good link for getting rid of Tories, Gracesgran.
Mind, I did have problems finding my Durham seat, as it has another two words in it apart from Durham.

I am not sure why your question arises Jen? Have I missed something re RM voting Conservative. This article is very much about why we shouldn't because of TM's actual (normally Conservative) intentions.

Ah - do you mean where I say "Why would you wish ... etc.," that was directed at Saak who, we are supposed to know, is "hugely working class". Sorry if I have confused.

" Her aim is, as a Conservative Richard Murphy explains"

Is there a comma missing there? It implies Richard Murphy is a Conservative.

There is a comma missing - sorry!