Article 50

The normal working class person in Germany and France to say but a couple are really struggling with this stupid free movement policy. NO, borders need to be controlled and countries can work together without having to be invaded by too many other cultures and peoples on mass.

There is a public outcry now for others and if UKIP, which stands for what I want, which is a UK independent party, Im all for it. Labour is just a laughable sham. Tories are up their arse snobs that haven't got a clue about normal working class people. Hopefully the elite that call normal bigots, racists and underclass are having a run of it and will be gone.

Jalima, you comment was understandable . I could say far worse about he i must not name. Blair is perfectly aware of the bitterness directed at him but spoke out because no one else has.

What a fool Tony Blair is ,trying to get back on the political stage with his nonsense about Brexit.It is much too late Tone, that boat has sailed.

This is an interesting read. I'm not sure if it makes things any clearer. In fact it makes things more scary.

www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2017/02/15/everything-you-need-to-know-about-article-50-in-five-minutes

Blair is a twat.

sorry, annie I know you don't like swearing and I meant to say 'tough stint'

I just said the same thing to DH.
He can say what he likes, no-one has to listen.

However, someone should point out to him that he didn't listen to the general public himself, so tough s***t if no-one listens to you and your prattling now.

If you are against brexit and were opposed to the Iraq war support the Liberal Democrats

For me, Blair is British, he has the right to free speech, no one has to listen to him.

I wasn't aware, but I just know the vote was very close and people I know voted against - but accepted the result without moaning (too much).

I too was on the March, doesn't change things, more stayed home than marched .

Regarding the vote for devolution for Wales, obviously those in England are unaware there were compromises made.

I was there and the numbers were vastly underreported. Apart from the huge long procession there were people hanging out of windows and shouting support from shops and offices. Even the police were helpful and cooperative. Add to this that it was part of a world wide movement and you realise how deaf Mr Blair really was. wearemany.com

I would have marched against the war in Iraq, annie,but I am not good at marching and, like DH, dislike crowds. I am sure many people were there in spirit and cheering the marchers on.

trisher* yes, yes, yes, yes and yes.

As DH pointed out this morning, in 1997 the Blair Labour Government held a referendum on devolution in Wales; the result was in favour by 50.3% to 49.7%, with 11 Local Authority areas voting for and 11 LA areas voting against.

That was a good enough result for TB and his government to forge ahead with devolution for Wales.

Why is it so difficult for him to accept the result of the EU referendum? Exactly what part of Leave does he not understand?

Forgot the golden rule , don't mention the labour leader unless to praise him, Rsther difficult to praise such as he

As for the march against the war, far more stayed at home than marched,

Not back to the campaign again, aren't we meant to be moving on? The people have spoken, or so I am told. Tony Blair is apparently disputing the result. But then he was never keen on listening anyway. Think about the people who marched against the Iran war and were ignored.

Naturally it was assumed the labour leader would have taken part in the Brexit campaign, but he refused to take part in tv debates and went on holiday .

Horse, stable door, bolted

Which group of people take notice of Tony Blair? Liberals? Conservatives dont. Labour doesnt - corbynites or otherwise.

He said it because someone had to, the leader has again vanished and he isn't going to rock Brexit, he has wanted it for many a year.

I have just listened to Tony Blair making a strong attack on brexit and asking people to reconsider and campaign against it.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38996179

I agree with everything he said but I wish he hadn't said it as his support is almost certain to be counter-productive. We are living in a time where politicians and public figures are cast as "goodies" or "baddies" by the populist press and TB is the archetypal pantomine villain.

Until the referendum vote, it was enough for EU citizens to have indefinite leave to remain.
I am not at all exasperated by my daughters in law not becoming UK citizens in the twenty+ years they have been living here.

Same here Tricia

Holiday healthcare is different and does not cover planned treatment.

I don't think houses are selling anywhere in areas favoured by "ex-pats" Tricia. the market was bad enough before the referendum vote.
I am cautiously hopeful that le Pen won't get in though. I get a very strong feeling from my French friends that they have looked at Brexit and Trump and had second thoughts. She is on 35% to Macron's 65% for the second round now.
Mind you I was wrong twice in 2016. ☹️