Shami Chakrobati now Shadow Attorney General in Corbyn reshuffle

Why should it be named anything else? Would some people like to call it a 'secondary modern' because some pupils in the area are educated in a grammar school or private school because their parents wanted them to take the entrance examinations for those schools?

It is a comprehensive school:
A comprehensive school is a secondary school or middle school that is a state school and does not select its intake on the basis of academic achievement or aptitude. This is in contrast to the selective school system, where admission is restricted on the basis of selection criteria.

Nowhere does the definition state that it should be the only school in the area catering for all pupils.

It takes pupils of all abilities and its results reflect that.

Labour lost three council bi election seats yesterday

Hatlepool to UKIP

Glasgow to SNP

Highland to Libs

So no gains for the Tories and three loses for Labour

Why are you pleased when Labour lose? Why haven't you put on the seats that Labour won?

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That's Bolton where it gained over 75% of the votes.

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Haringey, where it increased its share by 12.3%

Did you miss the two in Caerphilly, which Labour kept?

Jen, you obsession with Corbyn is worrying, where did I say i was pleased? And I do expect an answer to this question, it is so wrong to post a lie

The Board of Deputie's of British Jews slammed Shami Chakrabartis probe into anti semitism in labour as a 'job application' for her place in the shadow cabinet.

If it's so awful to be left ( in a room?) with Essex man, how come here in Southend, the spiritual home of Essex man we have not one but three of the best grammar schools in the country? Confused of Southend here

Shami being in the lords and the shadow cabinet, both are a disgrace,

Can't comment on Essex man sorry, no idea which part if England is .essex

Daphnedil

"I don't get the message that most Labour politicians 'tell' people where to send their children to school. I think that's a myth peddled by right-wingers."

Of course they do when they say they don't believe in sending children to public/private /grammer schools. If that's not ' telling ' somebody how 'they' want other peoples children to be educated then I don't know what it implies.

Changing the subject..... when Dianne Abbot was quizzed by Andrew Neil on the Daily Politics ( about her comment that 'West Indian Mums would go to the wall for
their children') he gave her an opportunity to say that of course, ALL Mums would, white, asian etc.but all she would say over and over again was 'Andrew, Andrew, I have nothing new to add' so that is obviously her excuse for being a socialist and sending son to a private school.

There is a difference between allowing private education which comes out of an individual's pocket and therefore does not have any effect on the state sector and funding selection which means that some money is channeled into small grammar schools which cater for a minority. How can Labour be telling people they can't send their children to private schools when many of their members do so? What they want is equality of opportunity throughout the state sector.

Exactly POGS and nobody would care if the left didn't pontificate about private schools.

Then some of them do the same thing and send their own offspring to private schools!

Or Grammar schools.

I am with trisher on this

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May was asked about how she would help the poor, and all she could talk about was grammar schools.

Annie, where did I mention Corbyn when saying that labour had won some seats, which you omitted to mention?
Why is that an obsession with Corbyn?

By the way, the thread is about Corbyn, so mentioning him could be forgiven, couldn't it? Even though I didn't.

Jen, msy I have your explanation for posting a false allegation against me please? You have gone too far with that accusation

Durhamjen Fri 07-Oct-16 12:43:27

POGS, I counted 13 MPs from North of Leicester in the shadow cabinet.

Can you you tell me who they are please. I can only see 1 Leicestershire MP Jonathan Ashworth, Leicester South. He has been appointed Shadow Health Secretary BUT there is some concern as this ' may ' lead to him having to resign from the National Executive Committee. Hmmmm.

Some say given Ashworths past feelings about Corbyn the goal was to obtain a place on the NEC and if the last vote was anything to go by it will won by a Corbyn supporter.

Or did you not mean North Leicestershire MP's but Northern MP's .

I am not being pedantic just making an observation as to the reason why Leicester came to your mind in a personal post to me as a few days ago you asked where I lived and when I did not respond you said 'hey ho'.

If it is Northern MP's then I agree the reshuffle has been spread out but I cannot help but note there is still a very close knit London- centric Shadow Cabinet.

Cameron was mocked for his Eton / Posh Boys Cabinet but I think Corbyn is keeping his pals very close to him also and it will follow him around the same as it did Cameron.

Jen posted of seats won by Labour in .caerphilly, to my knowledge there were two bi elections, one was won by a candidate for standing Welsh Labour , anyway hardly wins, always have been labour, the divide seems to be widening if a candidate stands for Welsh Labour not Labour

Jonathan Ashworth is off the NEC, already replaced by a Corbyn supporter. Corbyn was determined to get Ashworth off the NEC, it now stands Corbhn has a supporters majority on the NEC, yep a man of principle !

I meant to the North of Leicester, POGS, because you said it being London-centric.
I chose Leicester because it is central. If I'd said Northern there would have been some debate about where the North started.
There's one from Derby, too, but lots from Yorkshire and the North East.
This list was before Ashworth's appointment had been mentioned, so that's another one.

I think one reason there are so many from London is because there are so many Labour MPs from London.

There wer two byelections in Caerphilly, you agree. They were won by Labour, you agree?
So why did you not mention them, along with the other ones I mentioned?
You mentioned three that were lost, but not the four that were won. Sounds like bias against Labour to me.

Durhamjen 14.19

I am not criticising your choice to Homeschool your grandson!

You have told us many a time how you choose to so, what you teach him etc. You have elected to be very open about the fact. My point is is you choose to do so because it works well for your family circumstance and nobody should tell you otherwise, I certainly am not, however you may twist my post. I can be accused of criticising your belief others should not have a choice but that it is a different matter.

You also said this 14.59

"I don't understand Jalima. Corbyn does not want grammar schools. I don't want grammar schools.
We don't want them because you cannot have grammar schools and comprehensives.
What's wrong with that? Quite simple really."

Well maybe you and Corbyn and a lot of others don't but my point is who the hell are you, Corbyn and some others to tell others they should abide by your rules.

What is ' quite simple ' is for parents to make their own choice and if you or others would elect not to go to this/that or tuther school then don't send your children or grandchildren there, 'quite simple'.

Jen, two seats in a very strong labour area was of little interest, if two seats had been won by lsbour from snother party I would have posted that. I posted of a change in seats by three smaller parties,

Would I post to say Merthyr the birthplace of the lsbour party had voted labour ? No , it has been labour for over 100 years , think it would be classed as stating the bloody obvious

Your apology please for stating I was pleased at Labour 's loss of seats , I take your insults but will not accept you telling such a lie

63 resigned from the labour shadow cabinet in the summer, six have returned , and to hrlp unity Corbyn sacked Rosie Winterton who has been working hard to heal the rifts in the party, I assume Corbyn was concerned so got shot of her , or knew that sacking her would widen the rift

But we do not make the rules/laws.
Just say we don't want them.

I have an idea of the ideal system which would suit everyone.

My grandchildren have all been to comprehensives, as have my children.
My autistic grandson went to a comprehensive. He has said he would like to go to a school if it was small like the primary school, so he knew everyone, and nobody would bully him.
He went from a two form entry primary to a nine form entry comprehensive. He couldn't cope.
His mother went to a school in Denmark which went through from start to finish in the same school with the same friends in the same class, except when they reached 16 when they chose whether to follow the language or science stream. It would probably have suited him much more.
They had smaller classes, something which private school parents pay for. If private schools were closed, those parents would ensure that all children had the same privileges that they want for their children. What's wrong with wanting that?
Unfortunately, it will never happen as long as there are School Wars, the title of Melissa Benn's excellent book.

Parents do make their own choice. Unfortunately, there's too much choice in our system, because those at the top do not want anything other than the historic mess that means that the rich get the best choice.