Would you support the doctors' strike.

A seven day service will be worked eventually, but it will take time to do it properly( of course.)

It will not be done properly, because Hunt says there is no money for it - cost neutral is his phrase.
Therefore there will be no extra staff to run the rest of the time.
Of course, the junior doctors have been working seven days a week. It's just Hunt did not recognise it.
As said previously, it's not the junior doctors who did not work seven days, it's the radiographers, etc. They will need more money, but the NHS has to save billions.

You really have been brainwashed by Hunt, haven't you, roses?

Junior doctors will still have to move round the country in their first years, because that's how the system works. They are only on short term contracts and have apply for jobs every year. That's why Hunt thought he could impose the contracts. Unlike other staff, he wouldn't have had to change existing contracts, but bribed the hospitals with threats of cuts, if they didn't offer the new contracts. However, he underestimated how angry the junior doctors were and there was a real threat that they wouldn't apply for the jobs at the end of their existing contracts. Apparently there has been a jump in the number of doctors applying for work visas in places like Australia.

indy100.independent.co.uk/article/someone-has-edited-jeremy-hunts-car-crash-interview-into-the-thick-of-it--Z1e0D6blJXb?utm_source=indy&utm_medium=top5&utm_campaign=i100

Brainwashed? hardly, I have no feelings about the man either way.
Just saying ( about the new contracts) what was read out on Radio 4.
The junior doctors do not want to travel too far in their training,which sounds reasonable.It was one of the gripes mentioned.
Yes, we need all sorts at weekends, including x rays scans etc as well as doctors.

Therefore it will cost more money, which the government says it cannot have.
That's what cost-neutral means.
So what is going to happen? We spread the present five-day workers over seven days? Then what?

nhap.org/the-junior-doctor-contract/

What the National Health Action Party thinks about the contract negotiations.

www.pulsetoday.co.uk/views/blogs/through-the-k-hole/keep-the-f-away-from-my-sundays-says-god/20031843.blog

Anyone offended should read the comments. Anyone not offended should also read the comments.

We don't need a 24/7 health service for all specialities. There is no reason why people need to have routine appointments at the weekend and many staff in A & E, maternity, intensive care, etc have always worked on Saturday and Sunday. We now know that Hunt was lying about the weekend death rates. Quelle surprise!

Meanwhile, the two GP surgeries in my town now run surgeries on Saturdays, but probably not for much longer. Despite massive publicity, the service isn't well-used or popular and it's being provided at the expense of surgeries during the 'normal' working week.

God certainly doesn't want one!

Haha! I like it (sarc) that you speak for god now as well, dj. The hubris!! Chortle. Thanks for the laugh.

thatbags

www.pulsetoday.co.uk/views/blogs/through-the-k-hole/keep-the-f-away-from-my-sundays-says-god/20031843.blog

www.opendemocracy.net/ournhs/youssef-el-gingihy/junior-doctor-agreement-looks-like-sell-out

As I understand it, a perfect storm:

* too many doctors were predicted by DoH in 2006 which led to a 6% cut in medical training places. We now have fewer doctors in the training system than we actually need, ditto nurses.
* at the same time there was a cut in the budgets to local councils affecting their care home provision or care in home services. Hence the stories of bedblocking in hospitals and some hospitals releasing elderly patients back home with neither care home nor care in the home provision. Then the hospitals pay again if early release means early return to hospital.
* any promises made now about ramping up the numbers of doctors and nurses, given the length of medical training, only comes in 7-10 years later for junior doctors, a lot longer for consultants.
* many doctors and consultants here have opted out of the system: they can earn more and have control of their own lives by going agency - but this means hospitals are paying more for them. The cap system recently introduced for their fees has left hospitals who comply losing out for essential coverage to those who don't comply.
* the Private Finance Initiative, introduced by John Major but embraced by Blair's government, meant hospitals were built or expanded on private money with horrendous paybacks. There is more than one major hospital where they have had to close wards to save money to meet the pay back terms - or even set up a charity to raise money to meet the pay back terms.
* More importantly, Jeremy Hunt has gone for the argument that we need 24/7 hospital care based on a contentious report that more people die in hospital at the weekend. It appears not to be true for the most part. His response was to lay it on the doctors when it seems medical coverage, availability of other services (blood tests, processing xrays) would be more key. He is not providing any more junior doctors or nurses, so if more cover the weekends they will be missing from other days.

Death by a thousand links <sigh>
Is there a direct link to God too? A sort of virtual tablet (see what I did there?) of stone?

I've given you the link to God twice. However, you are slow to respond, Alea.

And that, DJ, is b*** rude!
I am not, unsurprisingly, surgically attached to my iPad or indeed GN. You do not know, nor do I necessarily wish to share, how I am spending my time at present.
I shall respond in my own good time if I wish to.
Instead of these interminable links, why don't you do what others have done, summarise an article you wish to use to back up your argument, with a link for those who may wish to read it in full.
#thinkitsjustlazyposting

So you are allowed to be rude to me, but I am not allowed to respond in kind?

Death by a thousand links ,sigh. was not supposed to be sarcastic, was it not? Perhaps you'd better tell me next time.
It did take you two days to say anything.
You have no idea about my problems either, so get off your high horse.

By the way, I gave up teaching a long time ago. Perhaps you ought to try it, too, and stop telling others what to do.

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I don't think I am the only person to object to death by a thousand unqualified links. I do indeed think it is lazy posting, patronising and didactic. And that is an opinion I am entitled to express.
This is a comment about posting not a comment about a person, before anybody leaps to the report button.
As to when or within what period of time a person may or may not react or respond to a post, individuals , like circumstances, will all vary. Clearly some people glean much comfort and company from GN and spend a large proportion of their day on it, others do not.
Two days to react? So what? To be then told to "keep up at the back" or whatever shows all too clearly that while you can take the teacher out of the school ..........

I thought you co-home-schooled your GS, dj. Is that not 'teaching'? As well as watching PMQT with him, of course...

I don't read all the links posted by DJ - I am selective, but I have learnt a lot of interesting things by reading some of them. I simply can't understand the strong objection. Why can't you simply gloss over what doesn't interest you? It seems a tad stressy to object so strongly.

Whitewave, I think my point is that take issue with being castigated for not reading every link or for reacting 2 days later (!) . If as you say, you do not read all the links given either, you will appreciate that without a summary or indication of their relevance, it is impossible to know the entire content and then harsh to be beaten over the head for missing something!!
It's a bit like headlines in a newspaper, which give you a "taster" or précis of the content, if you had to read every article in full to see whether it interested you or not, you would still be there the next day.
I don't think it is unreasonable to expect hope for some personal input in a post , as opposed to "recommendations" via a barrage of links

I get fed up reading complaints about links, so I gloss over them. Simple really.