Would you support the doctors' strike.

Yes, we'd have no staff; they'd all go abroad where they are appreciated.

Gillybob, I know a lot of teachers who took early retirement or went abroad because they were no longer appreciated. I do not see why doctors should not do the same.

What I do not like is the way that Hunt has been saying they do not work. Obviously you have not looked at my link to the I'm in work, jeremy, blog. Neither did Hunt or Cameron, obviously, because they still believe that doctors do not work weekends.

In 1996, my husband fell off a ladder and broke his spine. It was 4 p.m. on a Friday night. The surgeon was on his way home, but came back to operate on him, and save his life.
Another man had fallen over a wall and fractured his neck. The surgeon operated on him, too.

At Easter 2013, I had an aortic dissection, on Maunday Thursday. I was in two different hospitals for over three weeks. There were doctors on the wards at all times in both hospitals.
That was the weekend that the NHS changed to NHSE. 1st April, believe it or not.
Since then Hunt has done nothing but complain about doctors not doing their jobs properly.
So if they do not want to work for him any more, I do not blame them.

Please read something from the doctors' point of view. They are striking as a last resort. Hunt did not think they would. That's why he is doing what he is doing.

I saw that article in the i, JessM. Absolutely disgusting.

That would sort out the shortage of medical staff wouldn't it. Go back to those good old days.

Ah well- maybe we should go back to the days, not that long ago, where junior doctors worked between 130 to 140 hrs per week- sometimes a day, the night and the next day on the trot...

JessM, that is just so wicked, how could he do that, it's sick

Hunt is getting flak via Twitter for trying to use Paris attacks in official communication.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jeremy-hunts-staff-asked-nhs-7137504
Quote in article:
Liberal Democrat leader Tim Farron said: "Trying to politicise the Paris terror attack like this is the lowest politics I've seen in years. Utterly awful."

Thank you for the link JessM, what a choice, believe that doctor or Hunt, as the man never thought why are so many doctors leaving this country , if he has I expect he blames the rain

From todays press, including a doctor putting her point of view.

linkis.com/www.mirror.co.uk/new/qXvBC

Let us remember that "junior" means anyone not a consultant. And that on top of all those hours they work they have to do studying and exams at regular intervals.

You accused me of deliberately misinterpreting posts, for me doing this is accusing me of being dishonest, we obviously have different standards when it comes to being honest, I make mistakes , I mix up names, I apologise if pointed out, I do not deliberately misinterpret or twist posts .

Oh Pleeeeeease god give me strength.

I think perhaps Anniebach. You should spend a little time going back through the threads. I think you will find that it is you who have constantly (whether deliberately or otherwise?) twisted what I have been trying to say.

....and as for the sniping. see above.

I have not, and never have, repeat, never have, accused you of lying.

I don't use bad language but I am getting so close to it...

Bowing out now as this is pathetic.

Gillybob, your constant sniping doesn't bother me but do not and I repeat do not accuse me of dishonesty, thank you

Anniebach

Perhaps the reason some of you (one of you?) find no doctors at weekends now is as a reaction to Hunt's comments. After all, if somebody told you continually that you were not working when you were, why would you carry on working?

Yes I believe she did Anniebach unless I am following your lead and deliberately misinterpreting the post just for the hell of it.

Perhaps the reason some of you (one of you?) find no doctors at weekends now is as a reaction to Hunt's comments.

Seems pretty obvious that durhamjen has actually considered the possibility.

Did Jen say she really believes doctors are limiting their hours at weekends as a reaction to Hunt's comments? I saw a question mark on that post

.........and having read the comment from DJ suggesting that maybe it is because of Hunt's comments that I/we/my mum couldn't find a doctor in a huge hospital on a Saturday I am even more puzzled than ever.

I have to admit, I am sometimes in awe of myself Anniebach !

As I recall you were interpreting my "5 from 7" as hours worked. (as a deliberate attempt to be awkward or not?) and so I thought I had better make it clear for you. But you already knew that didn't you?

I am sorry that I do not have your blind faith in any one political party, your never ending adoration of the one who calls himself Jeremy.

But as I have said on other occasions I prefer to have an open mind.

I am not commenting as my comments would be deleted.
I will say, that to me, medicine is a vocation.

No, I certainly can't say that.

I'd still like to know whether durhamjen really believes that hospital doctors are limiting their weekend working hours as a 'reaction to Hunt's comments'.

Can anyone put their hand on their heart and say they are convinced that all those hardworking, committed, intelligent doctors, who really don't want to strike, are wrong and one career politician is right?
They are not striking for more money or better conditions. They are striking because they don't want less money or worse conditions. And because one of the proposed changes to conditions re working hours could lead to a reduction in patient safety.

The weekend issues don't just apply to doctors do they and at least so far as GP's go, most of us have excellent back up facilities.
My big complaint it JH insisting that doctor's only work Monday - Friday, poppy cock.

It will be many more than the few of us on here, that have found problems at the weekend, it has been an ongoing problem forever!

www.theguardian.com/society/2015/jul/20/iminworkjeremy-doctors-working-weekend-selfies-open-letters-jeremy-hunt-nhs

It's been the same for years. And surely you aren't suggesting that doctors have been avoiding working at weekends just to spite Jeremy Hunt?

In July after Jeremy Hunt first started pillorying junior doctors for not working weekends, there was an I'minworkjeremy action on twitter from very angry doctors.

www.theguardian.com/healthcare-network/2015/jul/21/doctors-decisions-ill-informed-jeremy-hunt-people-die-iminworkjeremy

Perhaps the reason some of you (one of you?) find no doctors at weekends now is as a reaction to Hunt's comments. After all, if somebody told you continually that you were not working when you were, why would you carry on working?

nhap.org/six-reasons-why-the-junior-doctor-fight-is-central-to-the-fight-for-the-nhs/

This is from December 1st, but it still stands.

www.politics.co.uk/comment-analysis/2016/01/06/comment-the-government-s-catastrophic-mishandling-of-the-jun

This is what Norman Lamb says. It's a shame he backed the government in the Health and Social Care Act.
The NHS would be in a better state if he and his party had not.