What would you like to see cut?

Yes, Meryn King is quite right. The Labour Party, for all its sins, was NOT responsible for the worldwide financial crash resulting from the utter irresponsibility and greed of the banking and finance sectors. Free enterprise and self-regulation were, and still are, key elements of Tory philosophy and to try and shift the blame for the mess onto the shoulders of others is a typical shabby trick on the part of this devious little rich-boy government. Remember that come the election.

Yes durham as I mentioned it was the accepted ideology by some for smaller government and less regulation. However, there can always be an argument from the left whether a Labour Government should seemingly blindly follow the argument of such ideology coming as was from the Republicans and Tories.

What he is saying is that this government should stop blaming Labour as they went along with it, as did the Libdems.

I don't think that King's article should come as "news" to anyone. Of course the thinking throughout the past 30 years has been less regulation and smaller government. This started with our illustrious leader the sacred Margaret. Whether the Labour government was correct in following the zeitgeist is another issue.

What is certain though is that Britains deficit and debt was better than most other developed nation's before the crash.

Our position at the last election was as a result of bailing out the banks to the tune of squillions. Whether the British Government should have done so or left the banks out to dry is another argument.

Perhaps here's the start of Labour's rehabilitation.

www.theguardian.com/business/2014/dec/29/labour-government-not-responsible-crash-bank-england-governor-mervyn-king

the Labour Party's attempts to re-establish their credibility

Yes, my DF would be shuddering if he knew what had happened to his beloved Labour party over the last 17 years.

I'm sorry, but they have a long way to go.

Eloethan

No.

I will get to the UKIP bit.

And you have told me all I need to know about the Labour bit.
Tut tut. I hope you have apologised to people if you have done that in real life.

Ana You brought up the subject of the IDS spoof tweets in an attempt to ridicule durhamjen. But then, when she responded by saying that David Cameron was taken in by them too, you tell her to "lighten up".

Didn't you fall for it too POGS?

I remember that thread .

It was put up to have a go at the terrible Ian Duncan Smith, the Tory git. but it backfired spectacularly didn't it because most posters saw straight through it,.

Goes to show you should be careful what links you put up for others to view, you might end up with egg on your face.

I thought it was very funny that you fell for it! But then, you would, wouldn't you?

I was lightening up. I thought it very funny that Cameron fell for it. Obviously you do not like anything said against Cameron.

So why did you mention it?

Oh do lighten up, durhamjen! No one really cares who thought what about those spoof tweets except you.

r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0LEViV1v5BUvOYAORoPxQt.;_ylu=X3oDMTByZHI5MXByBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDNgRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkAw--/RV=2/RE=1418801142/RO=10/RU=http%3a%2f%2fmetro.co.uk%2f2013%2f07%2f15%2fman-behind-spoof-ids-twitter-account-admits-he-was-surprised-to-have-tricked-david-cameron-3883527%2f/RK=0/RS=OMNpvYHBcfLapF0_wgjy0ptz6Yc-

Actually Cameron tweeted on it as well, for real. He never realised it was a spoof. IDS has not complained about it, so he probably agrees with it.

I read some links, durhamjen - those spoof IDS Twitter ones you put up were hilarious!

Never knew you had such a sense of humour.

Who's deflecting now?
What about the Ukip quote?

I do know you well enough to know that you try and use deflection, durhamjen!

I did not say at all that the Labour party were racist.

I dont know you well enough, but I think your answer of "I really did not answer that soontobe" is your real answer.

Did you miss this paragraph from the link that Ana gave, soontobe?
By the way, Ana doesn't read links, but she does put them on occasionally.

"Ukip, to be fair, have a coherent position on all this. It is motivated by racism and prejudice and would be a total catastrophe for the UK economy and Britain as a whole. But they want to withdraw from the EU, close the borders, and kick a lot of existing migrants out."

Sorry, soontobe, that does not make sense either.
Please can you tell me where and when the Labour party were racist.
Otherwise it's just rightwing bias and tittletattle.
Immigration and racism are not the same thing.

I really did not want to answer that, soontobe

You imply that Labour canvassers think people are racist if immigration is mentioned. That is so wrong

But it didnt used to be wrong. And now, oddly it isnt.
In reality it is because there are now so many people who will openly say that they want controlled immigration.
So what used to be wrong, is now right.
I dont like that.
The people were either right before or they werent. And to be name called as well was not on.

The article is spot on Ana.
I dont read newspapers in print, and only sometimes online.

www.weownit.org.uk

Do you know about this, papaoscar?