After being moved by Harry, I carried on listening to the debate and was very heartened by Andy Burnham's rousing speech about what he would do for the NHS as Health secretary. His plan for a cradle to grave health AND social care service, properly integrated, sounded a good way forward to me, and his promise of help for carers too. I'm sorry to see the 'they're all the same' mantra trotted out on this theme.Whatever Labour's faults it always looks after its creation, the NHS, vastly better than Tory governments do. Lansley's reforms are rapidly dismantling it, and for the poorest we'll be back to the bad old days. Harry's speech was a waste of breath if we just sigh and say 'there's nothing to be done, they're all the same'