Republicanism

Can anyone actually remember what was said on the jubilee threads?

I'm buggered if I can.

I enjoy lots of occasions..just chose not to celebrate Elizabeth Windsor's 60 years of waving! Did not stop anyone else from doing so, respect others' right to like the queen. Would like that to be reciprocal, s'all!

Oh for heaven's sake!

Is it so wrong to enjoy an occasion?

Haven't read whole thread. In process of getting grandkids to bed.

This seems so u nnecessary though.

Well, yes and no jess
It does seem that half of the rest of the world is already here.
In the early eighties the Arabs bought up half of London, forgot who did the nineties. And then the Russians in 2000-2010, and now the Chinese.

I am certainly not talking about the people from the Commonwealth, or the old colonies. And there are many of them as well.

All those folk must think we are a very democratic country, monarchy or not?

Do you mean they would like to johanna?

nanaej

HALF of the rest of the world.

The rest of the world is not living here!

the lack of a constitution only becomes a problem when a monarch wants to marry a divorcee! Or possibly someone who is not an anglican. ? which is to do with them having this crazy dual role as head of the Church of ENGLAND. (not the rest of the anglicans)
Then there is no rule book for such occasions.
There is no rule book either if monarch goes mad as in George 111 or if ER ever started to lose her marbles. Or refusing to co-operate with the PM.
I cannot think of any other problematic areas.

I cannot get my head around this.

We may not have a written constitution, but half of the rest of the world surely thinks we are a very democratic country. Else they would not all be living here.!!!!

wake up ej

www.republic.org.uk/What%20we%20want/index.php

or.......

http://www.republic.org.uk/What%20we%20want/index.php

If the nation was ever to become a republic I think it could be more like the current non-elected mayors in towns but for a 3-5 year period. That would be enough hand shaking, smiling and nodding around the country /world. They could be promoting British interests and tourism... we would still have all the national monuments etc for visitors to see. I really do not think a high % of tourists come to London to see the queen! They could be as politically impotent as the queen.

absentgrana. They could also be like Putin, Mugabee or Kim Yong oojimiflip.
You nor I would know so that does'nt really establish a precedence.

And if they were all like Mary Robinson then presidents would win hands down.

Annobel The royal prerogative has been passed on to the Prime Minister so it is perfectly okay constitutionally for him/her to take the country to war without consulting Parliament. There are different ways of having a president; it doesn't have to be the US model or the USSR model, for example. Irish presidents don't wield political power, for example.

I lean fractionally towards being a monarchist but don't go overboard to advertise it. I would like to get rid of the hereditary system and abolish the honours system when some people are awarded for simply doing their job of work. I am sure that there are many of us who have experienced a hard working life without recognition or reward!!

I was being polite. It was a big one off event for the monarchists and I didn't want to say anything to spoil it for them.

I would not class myself as a republican. Monarch arguably preferable to an elected non-exec president. Possibly has benefits to tourism to do it as we do. Otherwise what is the point in being so posh (unlike other Euro monarchs who are much less posh but less touristic.)
I viewed the jubilee as entertainment that did not interest me and tried to stay away. Bit like wimbledon. Only 2 slip ups.
nearly succeeded. will try harder next time.

Are there a lot of you, then?
I'm not a fanatical monarchist, but I don't fancy the alternatives. I agree that a Jubilee thread was not really the place to start attacking the present system - each to his own - and I'm sure the courtesy shown was appreciated.

I was wondering where you were, carbon! Good to see you. There have been several posts where I expected you to to pop up!

It was, I think, a courteous decision on the part of most republicans to let royalists get on with it, and not spoil the joy. I think.

I wrote a post just now and must have pressed the wrong key - it has disappeared. Now, can I remember what I said?

I am not a monarchist, far from it. However, I have fears about the possible powers of a president, for example, the finger on the nuclear button, or the power to send us to war without the consent of Parliament. A new constitution would have to be very carefully devised to avoid abuse of power. I can't see it happening in the near future or even in the middle term. We are such a very conservative nation (note the lower case 'c'). [pessimist emoticon]

I think we were very polite. The Royalists, and I am one of them, ( but never guilty of unguarded adulation), had their say over the weekend, anybody can post on GN and nobody was stopping the Republicans, they just didn't appear to say much. Go ahead .

As always, glass!

I will try that again

I personally think we have all been very polite to each other

I personally think we have all very polite to each other