Republicanism

Yes - I too would like to know what the benefits would be of becoming a republic?

johanna?

So, could someone please put forward the benefits of becoming a republic?

Preferably without referring back to the Jubilee.

Joan please can I join you on your fence?
Despite being a fence-sitter, I have produced 2 DSs who are fiercely anti-royalist!
Is it too late to see what 'Private Eye' has to say on the matter.... may try to find a copy later.

gillybob I have to say that I have been very puzzled by the way the media harp on about the Queen's "sacrifice". What exactly did she sacrifice and how painful was it I wonder.

carboncareful I can honestly say I have not watched one minute of the obscene waste of tax payers money that is the Jubilee. I am not a killjoy I just cannot see why "we" are celebrating the privileged life of an extremely rich woman who by a complete accident of birth is deemed to be our superior and ruler. She and her family live on cloud cuckoo land. With very few exceptions non of them have done an honest days work in their entire life. I heard someone say on tv last night "how wonderful her majesty is she waved for three hours non stop" for goodness sake. Work it out as an hourly rate !

The royals are not good people. If they were good people they would see the state of the country and have asked that the money wasted on this fiasco was spent more wisely.

johanna I seriously doubt that half the rest of the world has come here, but even if they had, what evidence is that they did so because they consider this country to be democratic. Rich Arabs and Russian oligarchs are not famous for their all-inclusive political views.

Note: the monarch is the Head of State in the United Kingdom and in a number of Commonwealth countries. Some of the latter, notably Australia and Jamaica, are seriously considering changing this situation and Francophone Canada has wanted to do so for decades. Republicanism is about replacing an unelected, hereditary head of state with one that is elected and can be got rid of without a revolution.

So a bloodyminded PM could see off a monarch , as in the "To Play the King" section of "House of Cards" and probably oust an entire monarchy

Do continue to discuss something that is never going to happen in our lifetime.

Well, maybe if carbon hadn't made such remarks as, "last weekend's malarky" and "not the jubilee thread, that made me sick", I wouldn't have felt the need to post at all.

Why not start the thread without referring to previous posts?

JessM I think there is a rule about the monarch's not co-operating with the PM. He/she has to abdicate.

POGS The Russian system allows, even encourages someone like Putin to become president, ditto the America system and George W. and the North Korean system and the Kim Jong dynasty. The Irish system, however, is set up completely differently so there is no possibility of such figures becoming president. Our own existing system allowed recent Prime Ministers to become more presidential in style and it is time that the Commons exerted a bit more control over the Government. That is its role, after all. A head of state without political power – whether a queen as now or a president – would make no difference.

johanna, I have no wish to replace the Monarchy at all - I'm quite happy with the status quo. I was merely pointing out to jingl that we've all had our say on the Jubilee threads and that this one's for the republicans.

12 jessM ???? ...I must have missed most of them!

However ...I , for one, appreciated the fact that most GNetters did not interrupt the threads were some of us were enjoying sharing the celebrations! ...with about 17 million other television viewers.

And so I too respect other's right to voice their views on creating a republic.

However ...this thread seems to be more of a debate?

So ...my two pennuth would be that I would hate to have an elected president with the rights of those in countries such as USA or France.

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It is serious , because to replace a Monarch with a Head of State ain't going to change anything!

Anyone who is really interested in the future of the country should concentrate on education!

well it was until you brought in the rest of the world Johanna - maybe they came here to make money, those rich people you were referring to. But London property and just sit back.
We were trying to discuss a political subject Jing NOT talk about the jubilee, which I recall had about 12 threads on the one subject!

Is it? Why?

Oh, fabulous
Let them eat cake!

Or is it bread and circuses?

Joking apart though it is a very serious subject.

And Edward VII.

Isn't that what Marie Antoinette said?

yeah. right.

Do carry on without me.

jo4

No yawning, this is serious.

Yes, it must be tiring...

yawn

You can always read them again, jingl.
I think those of us who wanted to contributed to those threads; it's only fair that the other side get to have their say, too!