employment tribunal

I'm glad to hear you have come to this decision, Seasider. I felt we shouldn't suggest it as you really had gone through the mill and might have wanted to put it behind you, and I wouldn't blame you! X

We had a lovely break but we still feel decision unfair so have today asked the tribual to consider a review of the decision!

seasider Good idea to get away, relax and enjoy.

Yesterday was a very long and intense day. the other side brought a barrister depite the fact we were unrepresented. It soon became clear there had been a number of dirty tricks in respect of the evidence that I suspect had been done to may things more difficult for us. The judge did say that whilst she may think that DP's dismisssal was harsh the employer had followed proper procedures. ( we would still disagree) . The two instigators were not there and both the disciplining and appeal officer had failed to even speak to them relying solely on written statements!.

The hearing lasted all day and the barrister did ask us to have our diary handy in case of another hearing to discuss the financial part so I think he was unsure of the outcome!

After hearing the way his ex-managers spoke and the descriptions of the situation at work DP now feels he is better off away from there though he did love his job.

We were pretty down last night and when I saw all your messages of support it made me cry ( did feel better as had been holding it in all evening) Thank you all so so much for the advice and support. We are having a few days away next week with no mention of work! xx

So sorry to hear your news.

I'm shocked to hear this result Seasider. They offered you settlements and they knew you had a case. I'm so sorry it has turned out like this and like others have said, I hope it is consolation that you have kept your integrity and played it straight down the middle. All my very best wishes for you and your husband - you deserve a little peace now. The thought of having this awful time behind you will help

seasider sorry you lost, good luck to you and your DH for the future, you can move on now knowing you left no stone un-turned

I have been following you too,you have lost the case,but retained your self respect in fighting for your rights,wishing you and your husband happiness in a fresh startxxxxxx

Sorry to hear that you lost Seasider. You did your best, be positive and look forward now. (((hugs)))

seasider It does seem very unfair. Best wishes for your future.

So sad for you, seasider. It must be a blow for you both after having had to be so strong for so many months. I hope you will be able to move on relatively unscathed.

I am devastated for you, but hope that at least having it behind you enables you both to move on. I think you said that your partner had another job which must help his self esteem, but I take my hat off to you for persevering and for upholding the rights of the "little person". Alas, justice has not been done in this case and you may well have a point that a panel would have been more even handed. to you and every good wish for a brighter future.

Sorry to hear you lost the case, seasider. It's the end of a very stressful time for you so I hope you can put it all behind you and move on to a more positive future without the wretched thing hanging over you.

I've been following this thread with interest and had high hopes for you and your DP, seasider. So sorry you didn't get the result you were hoping for.

seasider (((hug)))

well after a very long and intense day I am sorry to say we lost the case. The other side brought a barrister though we were unrepresented. We gave it our best shot and even their barrister did ask us at one point to have our diary ready in case we had to come back to discuss the financial settlement. The judge did say she may personally disgaree with the decision to dismiss DP but she did find that proper procedures had been followed within the law. We did disgree with this as we provided lots of evidence of inorrect procedures such as insufficient notice of disciplinary meetings etc. We also had unsigned or dated statements that they had relied on for evidence and which had striking similarities. We had evidence of changes to the wording of evidence they had provided but all this was dismissed as irrelevant to the outcome. We do wonder if the decision may have been more balanced if there had been three members of the tribunal as there were before the changes in April 2012( cost cutting). Thank you all so much for your help and support which has meant so much at a very difficult time.

Fingers crossed for you seasider!

Good luck

All the best Seasider

We're all right there with you Seasider. Keep your resolve and you'll be fine. They will probably send their solicitor to have a word and make a final offer before going in, so they can walk in and tell the judge its sorted. This is the best chance to get what you need to settle. Make sure you say everything you want to say is put across if/when you get in there - make notes and tick each item off as its addressed to your satisfaction. You won't be landed with costs. It's only if you get a massive settlement that you might be asked for a reasonable contribution. Break a leg!!!

Wishing you the very best of luck. You have been so determined in your fight you deserve the very best outcome

Good Luck.

Good Luck.

well it's the big day today . Just looking over everything again. We sent the other side a long list of questions on Sunday evening so they would have them first thing Monday but they have chosen to ignore them (no response at all). We can do no more now but cross our fingers. I will be so glad when it is all over. It has taken over the last eight months and been so stressful. Thanks again everybody for your help and support . Wish us luck! will let you know the outcome. x

Seasider telling them in advance gives them chance to make an offer to stop the change going into court, or they might just justify it because they'll have time to think about it. I'd be inclined to tell them, and tell the court, to show you don't play dirty tricks, as the court might see you not mentioning it as being gamey, which would put you in a negative light.