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Why bungalows for sale are so neglected?

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RusBun Sun 17-Sept-23 22:43:06

We have been looking for a bungalow in Surrey lately and got very frustrated with what we have observed being a trend.

Almost all of bungalows were built in the 1930-s and are quite small, typically around 65m2. They are in a really poor state and have not been updated for a few decades. Many show signs of utter neglect. Most of them have suspended floors, rising damp issues or damp and mould from leaky roofs and gutters. Doors and windows need changing, not to mention pink and avocado bathrooms and pine kitchens together with polystyrene tile ceilings. They have EPC of D or even E.

Whilst most of those faults and undesirable features are due to age, some are due to sheer neglect from the relatives of the elderly owners. We have seen plenty of probate properties still on the market a year later with dirty dishes still left in the stinking dishwasher, food left in the fridge and gone mouldy, kitchen units left dirty still full of contents.

The saddest one was a perfect in every sense bungalow, so well laid out and built, where the water butt leaked, stayed unnoticed for ages, created damp in the wall and eventually black mould took over the whole wall behind the built-in wardrobe. The doors were left open, and the mould spores disseminated all over the house, infecting every inch of surfaces, carpets and fabrics. This is how you get what is called a “sick building syndrome”. You will never get rid of that mould completely, the spores will make sure it comes back.

So on one hand, there is a real shortage of bungalows for the aging population, and on the other hand there are plenty of them but in such poor condition that nobody would buy them. Relatives overprice these bungalows in a hope to get a bigger inheritance, so the buildings sit empty for over a year getting musty, mouldy and accumulate problems – and depreciate to the point of becoming unsellable. Yet they do very little to make them sellable in the first place, like dealing with leaks and damp or at the very least giving these properties a good clean and empty the appliances.

It makes me so sad to watch some great houses going to waste instead of becoming cosy and loved homes. The only thing that could stop this madness would probably be the condition under which properties could be marketed – to be cleared, cleaned and issue free.

Some properties even got extended but we have seen so many extensions that were given little thought and resulted in convoluted layout, blocked light and fresh air and unusable or lost space.

Elegran Tue 19-Sept-23 15:57:54

What is it about stairlifts that gives people such a horror of them? Is it something about the things themselves - is it ugliness? They are not elegant furnishings, but they are functional enough and quite neat.

Is it the thought of why they are needed, the reminder that we could all become old and decrepit and need them? If so it is need that horrifes, not the object itself. Is there the same horror at the mere thought of a walking stick, or glasses or dentures or a hearing aid? How about a crutch for a broken leg?

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 19-Sept-23 15:57:17

That’s suburbia for you!

Fleurpepper Tue 19-Sept-23 15:52:20

Wow this is crazy! And so so close to the surrounding houses!

Dinahmo Tue 19-Sept-23 15:48:49

RusBun

Casdon

RusBun

This is what you can get for half a million in my area for example: www.onthemarket.com/details/13326505/

I thought you were going to show us a shoebox on a busy road RusBun, but that’s a decent bungalow on a quiet street with potential and a lovely garden. I don’t really see what it is that you couldn’t face about doing something like that up, it could be done in stages? The USP must be the toilet seat though, I’ve never seen anything quite like that before.

Interestingly, this one just come back on the market. Survey must have picked something nasty.

house prices are falling - maybe the vendors haven't realised that yet.

Fleurpepper Tue 19-Sept-23 15:46:27

Well of course, in a flat it is a different story.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 19-Sept-23 15:45:03

Isn’t it difficult in a flat though? And you have two flights of stairs to contend with.

RusBun Tue 19-Sept-23 15:41:21

Fleurpepper

Casdon

The washing just smells so lovely when it’s been blowing in the fresh air, I wouldn’t want to swap that for convenience to put the clothes away afterwards.

Agreed, and honestly, the washing does not spoil the garden at all. Of course, sometimes the weather makes it impossible, so a dryer can be useful. But I try to wash when the weather is good. Saves on energy, and so much better for the environment. Win win smile

So true!

RusBun Tue 19-Sept-23 15:40:43

Germanshepherdsmum

Am I the only one here who has a horror of stairlifts? I have arthritic knees and a bungalow may be necessary one day but I would rather crawl up the stairs if need be than have a stairlift (or an ordinary lift).

Thought of a stairlift gives me shivers. Just the look of it is enough to put you off.

RusBun Tue 19-Sept-23 15:38:51

Elegran

If you do buy somewhere that is not as expensive as commuter-belt Surrey, please try not to keep on to the locals about how much better your social/cultural life was where you lived previously - yes, they do know that it was a lot more convenient to hop onto a train to Central London for the nightlife and the culture, but they also know the cost of that convenience, in money and in stress.

When you are ill you don't get social life, leave alone nightlife anyway. I only travel to London for hospital appointments these days. I love quiet surroundings and nature; hustle and bustle make me exhausted.

RusBun Tue 19-Sept-23 15:34:55

I do not use a tumble dryer, is is only good for sheets and towels, clothes get misshaped in it. I hang all my washing outside in the summer and in our large airing cupboard in winter. Any store cupboard could be just as good if you put a small blow heater in it. I detest washing hanged on every radiator in the house or anywhere in sight.

RusBun Tue 19-Sept-23 15:30:55

Caravansera, what a great post, thank you!

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 19-Sept-23 15:29:32

Each to their own! I hung my washing out for years - in this house I don’t.

Fleurpepper Tue 19-Sept-23 15:27:34

Casdon

The washing just smells so lovely when it’s been blowing in the fresh air, I wouldn’t want to swap that for convenience to put the clothes away afterwards.

Agreed, and honestly, the washing does not spoil the garden at all. Of course, sometimes the weather makes it impossible, so a dryer can be useful. But I try to wash when the weather is good. Saves on energy, and so much better for the environment. Win win smile

Casdon Tue 19-Sept-23 15:24:18

The washing just smells so lovely when it’s been blowing in the fresh air, I wouldn’t want to swap that for convenience to put the clothes away afterwards.

Cabowich Tue 19-Sept-23 15:20:14

Such a good, well-considered post, Caravansera.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 19-Sept-23 15:12:09

It’s easier and I don’t have to look at a clothes line in the garden. Nor do I have to consider the weather!

Fleurpepper Tue 19-Sept-23 15:10:27

Why use a dryer when we have free breeze and sunshine?

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 19-Sept-23 15:03:25

I use the tumble dryer for most things. Shirts can be hung on the drying rack (there’s an extractor fan in the laundry room).

Fleurpepper Tue 19-Sept-23 14:58:22

Casdon

MerylStreep

Germanshepherdsmum

Fortunately our laundry room with washing machine, tumbler dryer and drying rack is upstairs where the vast majority of laundry is generated, and we have a large landing just outside it where I do the ironing (ironing board etc kept in laundry room) so there is very little to carry up and down stairs.

I’ve been banging on about this for years. Washing machines should be upstairs.

I don’t get this, surely you would be carrying wet washing, which is heavy, downstairs to hang it out if your washing machine was upstairs? My utility room is next to the back door, which seems the most logical place to me.

Same here. Probably this for people who use a dryer for everything. I dry outside on the line 90+ of the washing.

Joseann Tue 19-Sept-23 14:54:52

My friend has a laundry shoot she sends the dirty washing down, and presses a button for it to come back up to iron. No kidding.

Casdon Tue 19-Sept-23 14:34:34

MerylStreep

Germanshepherdsmum

Fortunately our laundry room with washing machine, tumbler dryer and drying rack is upstairs where the vast majority of laundry is generated, and we have a large landing just outside it where I do the ironing (ironing board etc kept in laundry room) so there is very little to carry up and down stairs.

I’ve been banging on about this for years. Washing machines should be upstairs.

I don’t get this, surely you would be carrying wet washing, which is heavy, downstairs to hang it out if your washing machine was upstairs? My utility room is next to the back door, which seems the most logical place to me.

MerylStreep Tue 19-Sept-23 14:23:08

Germanshepherdsmum

Fortunately our laundry room with washing machine, tumbler dryer and drying rack is upstairs where the vast majority of laundry is generated, and we have a large landing just outside it where I do the ironing (ironing board etc kept in laundry room) so there is very little to carry up and down stairs.

I’ve been banging on about this for years. Washing machines should be upstairs.

Woollywoman Tue 19-Sept-23 14:11:11

Well said, Caravansera. Very interesting to hear re AWOC too.

Casdon Tue 19-Sept-23 13:43:17

Germanshepherdsmum

I understand what you’re saying Elegran, but not for me, ever. I loathe the sight of the things. If it became absolutely necessary we would move to single storey living.

I agree regarding stairlifts, they aren’t pretty. I do like the glass home lifts though, I think they can look in keeping if you choose wisely, particularly if they are the stand alone ones rather than built into a wall.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 19-Sept-23 13:34:17

Fortunately our laundry room with washing machine, tumbler dryer and drying rack is upstairs where the vast majority of laundry is generated, and we have a large landing just outside it where I do the ironing (ironing board etc kept in laundry room) so there is very little to carry up and down stairs.