The other C word (Covid)

This the latest statement from WHO

English version last updated on 4 August 2023.

Why get vaccinated against COVID-19?

The emergency phase of COVID-19 is over, but the virus continues to spread and evolve. COVID-19 remains a threat, especially to older persons and adults with underlying health conditions.

Safe and effective vaccines help ensure that COVID-19 does not result in severe disease and death. Vaccination protects against COVID-19 and reduces the likelihood of new variants from emerging.

Take all COVID-19 vaccine doses, including booster doses, as recommended to you by your health authority.

The link.

www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/covid-19-vaccines/advice

This is not like having a cold, grim though colds can be. I have slept more on than off since Thursday night, my oxygen levels are low and I am developing a cough. I ache all over, as though I have been run over by a bus. It’s more like flu, but I mean actual influenza - not the heavy cold that many people call flu. I had flu a while ago, and it turned to pleurisy, so whereas my breathing isn’t too bad just now I am very wary. This is not something I want to get on and off, and I am very glad to be fully vaccinated.

Great!!
Is the autumn vaccine being tweaked to include that?

To answer your question Whiff......

WHO: The variant, known as EG.5 or “Eris”, is related to an Omicron subvariant called XBB.1.9.2, and is growing in prevalence globally, with countries including the UK, China and US among those affected.

A friend of mine has let me know tonight she has Covid. She's had it before but this time is a lot worse. Her LFT lines couldn't have been clearer as both where very dark and went straight to positive.

We live in different parts of the country and she doesn't know where she picked it up from.

But as it's airborne like flu you can pick it up from anywhere. Normally I wear a mask on the bus and shops but the heat has effected my breathing but as soon as its cooler my mask will be back on. Still do a LFT every Saturday Drs orders . I have been very lucky not to have it at all. But I know my luck with run out .

Covid has mutated but can't remember what the new variant is called.

I don’t think we can afford to be complacent. Covid definitely isn’t flu,
Has anyone heard of ‘long flu’ for example?
We will have to see what happens during the winter, with the NHS already on its knees with long waiting lists and strikes to contend with.
It’s a depressing picture unfortunately, and as usual the poorest, sickest and oldest in society will fare the worst.

Ditto!

Same here

Germanshepherdsmum

Those who are vulnerable can’t afford to ‘get it on and off’. I am one such person. I take it seriously, don’t treat it like the common cold.

Ditto!

Those who are vulnerable can’t afford to ‘get it on and off’. I am one such person. I take it seriously, don’t treat it like the common cold.

HappyLife

It's just part of life now so we'll all get it on and off for evermore. Do we really need to keep on going on about it?

As long as people need information, and to be "in the know" about practicalities - like where to get the booster jab... and who is eligible, etc - I suspect we'll keep "going on about it".

However, you can avoid the discussions!

It's just part of life now so we'll all get it on and off for evermore. Do we really need to keep on going on about it?

I feel able to criticise my government whilst acknowledging it was dealing with the unknown.

A very valid point Iam64.

One of mr i’s work tasks was tracking the number of deaths in his local authority. Long before covid he was talking about increased deaths in older people, whose age of death was becoming earlier. He linked that to our governments policies but I expect he’d be dismissed as a leftie, rather than an academic

Usernametaken

Just watched a presentation from a very upset and angry doctor. A new study has been done showing that 1 in 35 people got heart problems after having the 'prick'! 1 in 35!!! He is furious that this is not major news! He openly admits that he got the 'prick' but he would not have gone anywhere near it if he knew all this data that is coming out! 1 in 35 people having a serious adverse reaction to the heart! Do you really think it is a coincidence that excess deaths are up all around the world after they started giving people this? Because I don't!! But the makers of the 'prick' control the media! Also the makers of the 'prick' wanted you to wait 75 years before they released all the data from the trial! They wanted to wait until you were all dead before they revealed the truth but a high court judge told them they need to release it all now!

Just watched a presentation from a very upset and angry doctor.

What is his name?

And where can we watch this 'presentation'?

As for the excess deaths around the world (where did you get that information from?). A study was done in Denmark on 4 million people who'd had the vaccination, published in the BMJ. There were no deaths or dx of heart failure in those diagnosed with myocarditis or pericarditis after being vaccinated.

If you are going to make claims, you must give us the sources of them - unless you believe we should just take your word for them?

We don’t need unsupported anti-vax propaganda here, thanks. Please post somewhere else.

I’ve reported your posts usernametaken, I can’t recall the last time I reported anything
You’re spouting conspiracy theories which are rejected by scientists and doctors.
I’m all for discussion about the level of risk posed by the original and successive variants, the balance of risk between lock downs and no lock down. Covid was new, it was an international epidemic. I feel able to criticise my government whilst acknowledging it was dealing with the unknown.

Reporting your posts isn’t stopping Freedom of speech. You’re breaching guidelines in the way you address those of us who disagree with your conspiracy theories

Thank you Dickens for yet again, a very reasoned post.

Not scientific data, but anacdotal. Sorry you have failed to convince me.

I will repeat again, vaccination prevented me from dying of Covid.
I was in hospital for less than twenty four hours, when I had a second heart attack, right in the middle of the pandemic. FYI, it wasn't caused by the Covid vaccine.
There was no bed for me, because many of the beds were taken up by unvaccinated Covid patients, and as someone who is CEV, it wasn't a safe place for me to be anyway, according to my clinicians.
I know who I prefer to believe.

Usernametaken

I’ll say this again for those that missed it. In the UK, for the last 18 months, over 500 extra people a week are dying from heart attacks! Where is the fucking noise about this!? One covid death and you were outraged but now over 500 a week just from heart attacks and you are silent? Why does one way of dying get more attention than another? Why were you only bothered when it was about covid? Is it because the TV is not telling you to be bothered? It’s insane how you can switch from shouting abuse to the unvaccinated, the none mask wearers to now complete silence. Absolute hypocrites!

I will echo what Germanshepherdsmum has said - start a thread about heart disease, and find out for yourself what members of GN think about it.

I doubt very much you were reported because you had a different opinion to GSM, more likely - if the above post is anything to go by - because of your aggression (not to mention the language used to express it).

As for the insinuation that GSM - or any of us - are somehow controlled by what we watch on the TV - that is a tactic that won't work on here. Why do you assume that no-one looks at various sources of information - including scientific papers, studies and statistics?

Heart disease, and the deaths since the start of the pandemic is a valid concern - but it has many causes, among them ambulance delays, lack of access to timely care, and ever-increasing waiting lists... problems which, though intensified by the pandemic, were inherent in the health-care system prior to it.

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Usernametaken

Germanshepherdsmum

You need to familiarise yourself with the talk guidelines here if you want to avoid having posts deleted.

In case you hadn’t noticed, this thread is about covid, not heart disease. Many posters and their families have heart problems, in some cases very severe problems. Unfortunately though, you can’t be vaccinated against heart disease - but you can be vaccinated against covid.

Perhaps you should start a thread about heart disease. You would find out just how many suffer from it and just how aware we are.

The heart attacks are caused by the jab. Surely you’ve heard about the sudden deaths.
The covid jab wasn’t tested enough, just a way to make the Pharmaceutical companies money

Evidence please?

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Agreed.

I have reported it too.
I have congestive heart failure, you cannot immunise against it.
However, Covid will kill many with heart conditions, but immunisation may lessen the risk of death. That's why it is important to have Covid vaccinations.
You haven't a clue, Username.