With UK Covid deaths the highest in Europe, is this living with Covid?

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How about this one?

We can all find scary stats and we can all find stats that aren't scary at all. And getting the numbers right is important or nobody will believe the points you make.

Also, with some judicious data selection, I can make it look like the situation in France and Spain is nearly twice as bad as it is here, with things getting worse for them (Second graph)

My point? History isn't the same as forecast.

“We seem to have snatched defeat from the jaws of vaccine victory.”

This is what the OP is getting at as well most posters know but choose to deflect.

And how were things in Slovenia regarding masks please?

I keep seeing these figures on the news every night yet hardly know anyone who actually has it!

I think you’d better start again marq66 as everyone is getting muddled by your figures.

Also, as regards total deaths per million of population, we are 15th in Europe.

Please provide a link to your figure of 45066 deaths in September..

Perhaps it’s just coincidental that it’s the exact figure declared for Covid cases yesterday?

Your case figures are also way out.

No she said compared with last September.

You've got the case numbers and deaths wrong.

Approx 450 deaths in the month, not 45,000.

Average daily cases, about 40,000.

I think she means the total of deaths up to September. I think she also means 45000 cases per day for 14th Oct.

Are you having a laugh? I'm not a figures person, but 45,000 deaths last month is ludicrous reporting.

Prof. Winston Graham has said that the government’s mistakes were catastrophic, with an abysmal and culpable level of unpreparedness, not experienced in most places in the developed world.

For the month of September, the UK recorded 45,066 deaths due to Civd

Over 45.000 deaths in September? That can't be right.