Genuinely curious

I'm on the Oxford trial so I'm hoping I had the actual vaccine.

By not for and firm not firm. Blasted eye and thumb!

I took hydroxychloroquine for 3 years as prescribed for consultant dermatologist for rare firm of alopecia. Developed a macular hole - one of the side effects of taking the dtug. Perhaps that's what's wrong with Trump - he can't see the light only the money.

Trump's investment in Sanofi is about $450
www.vox.com/2020/4/7/21211872/trump-coronavirus-hydroxychloroquine-covid19-drugs-sanofi-owns

I'd really like to know what constituent of the vaccine triggered the two people's allergic reactions. Just curiosity really, as I don't have allergies myself. But rather than telling everyone with severe allergies not to get the jab, if they said exactly WHICH allergies it might trigger it would be helpful. No point in withholding it from people with bad hay fever if it's actually milk allergies that it triggers!

Russia and China have been vaccinating their people for a few weeks without regulatory safety approval. That’s using people as guinea pigs Jennil23!

I have been taking Hydroxychloroquine for years , prescribed by my consultant rheumatologist for Rheumatoid Arthritis... took a while to work properly but it has decreased the pain in my joints so that life is much easier to cope with and daily pain is bearable.
I too have been shielding since March as per letters from NHS/ government as I’m also asthmatic and considered extremely vulnerable, Has the hydroxy helped with Covid.... I don’t know but as Trump has said it will I’ll just carry on taking it anyway!!!
Coming up to my 75th birthday so won’t be able to have the vaccine anytime soon but will definitely have it done when it’s offered.

Fear not feast!

Hear hear Lucretzia. Where has this feast come from? Very few people deny vaccines against formerly deadly diseases for their children or for themselves when they wish to travel to places where yellow fever, cholera etc are still an issue so why is this different? I remember my GP saying to me when there was a controversy about certain vaccines for children many years ago that if the anti-vac mothers had ever heard a child close to dying from whooping cough (as he had) then they wouldn’t think twice. I have never forgotten that.

Yes, the UK passed it as safe before all other countries. Good bit of oneupmanship.

There has already been thousands of Guinea pigs This vaccine has been tested on real people!!

Jenni123 I’m very happy to be used as a guinea pig. I want normality to return to everyone’s world as well as mine! My life is less valuable than youngsters so am happy to test it out.
I have had the bulk of my life but want my grandchildren to have theirs.

they are using us as guinea pigs, once they see how we react to the virus they will then decide whether to use it or not as the case may be

Sorry you couldn’t access the article SueDonim. It says that the drug is manufactured by Sanofi - a major shareholder of the company is Dodge and Cox, the Trump family’s mutual fund. The Trump administration purchased 29 million doses of the drug and of course Trump promoted it at every opportunity.

No matter what the production rate of any vaccine none can be used until the relevant national regulatory body has seen all the figures examined them and signed them off, thereby giving permission for the product to be used.

Our regulatory body was just quicker off the mark than others.

Thanks for pointing that out and embarrassing me,I’m sure you took great pleasure in that Alegrias. I don’t mind being corrected but it could’ve been done in a much kinder way..

Asymptotic : The definition of asymptotic is a line that approaches a curve but never touches. A curve and a line that get closer but do not intersect are examples of a curve and a line that are asymptotic to each other.

Asymptomatic!

Thank for that NS....?? But there is still no way I will be rushing to have this or any vaccine at least for a few weeks. I have had Covid and had no symptoms so was asymptotic,Not sure if I have antibodies but will take my chances, I am doing everything right wearing the mask washing my hands frequently and social distancing...

I can’t read that as it has a paywall, but thank you anyway, Jane43.

Here's an article about the different approaches www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/12/08/uk-pfizer-biontech-vaccine-faq/%3foutputType=amp

The reason, Shinamae, is apparently because the FDA hasn't approved it yet. They are apparently meeting today (Thursday), to consider it.

SueDonim here is a link that supports what I said about Trump’s motives for promoting Hydroxychloroquinine. I originally read about it in the Washington Post. Everything the man does is for self interest.

www.chicoer.com/2020/06/17/letter-trumps-financial-interest-in-hydroxychloroquine/

GrannyGravy13 that’s wonderful news. I think Biden will be a great President.

That’s interesting about Trump and the hydroxy, Jane43. Food for thought.

Joe Biden has pledged to vaccinate 100 million Americans in the first 100 days of his Presidency, for free apparently.

You are correct SueDonim the USA were offered extra supplies of the Pfizer Vaccine while it was still in development but the Trump administration declined probably for financial reasons but more likely because Trump wanted to promote hydroxychloroquinine which I believe he has an interest in. I read yesterday that this decision may lead to a shortage of the vaccine in the USA and some citizens may not be able to have it until June next year. The pharmaceutical companies involved in finding a vaccine had a general agreement that no country had preferential treatment and that it be made available to all countries who wanted it. Undoubtedly if this shortage of the vaccine does happen the GOP will blame it on the incoming administration.