Lots of interesting help, thanks. annsixty I found your comment very useful in fact, as I was beginning to wonder whether nothing is helping! However, I'll look at Tiger Balm Welshwife, after the Voltarol. JenniferEccles I'm on a very low income so could no way go privately. I will phone the secretary next week, as I emailed a while back and had no reply. GrannyLaine co-codamol and ibuprofen, hadn't thought of that. May try it tonight. Just the odd night's sleep, or few hours' sleep, would be marvellous. Lyndylou I took Solpadeine for a tooth abcess once, I remember it was brilliant, but I was younger then and suspect it would leave me foggy now. Hey ho!