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GD soon to be weaned - Water issues

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nightowl Mon 25-Apr-16 12:58:56

You're right jingl life for a dairy cow is far from good. They feel emotions just as much as humans or any other mammals and removing their calf is every bit as distressing for them. Why do we humans think we have the monopoly on suffering?

Re the OP, I agree with others that you should ask the mother to supply everything needed when you look after your GD. I'm sure that someone who gives so much thought to the food she gives her child would want to do that anyway.

Granny23 Mon 25-Apr-16 11:57:07

'Discomfort to the cow being milked' I certainly experienced that whilst breast feeding my two. grin That's not a grin that's gritted teeth.

Granny23 Mon 25-Apr-16 11:53:46

Jingle My farming friends would argue that the cow was bellowing because her carefully bred, oversized mummeries were swollen and she needed milked. Today's dairy cows produce far more milk than is needed to feed one or two calves. A dairy farmer would consider it cruel NOT to milk his cows.

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 25-Apr-16 11:38:11

Yes. Alea mentioned that. But it's worth repeating. We can't always go gaily conscience free about our business.

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 25-Apr-16 11:35:45

Actually, milk producing can be considered very cruel to the cow. Have you heard a cow bellowing for it's calf when said calf has been taken away in the interests of supplying milk from the mother cow to humans? And continuing, yearly, pregnancies where the same thing happens over and over again.

Life for a cow isn't always that great. TBH.

ninathenana Mon 25-Apr-16 11:29:40

DiL clearly has specific rules when it comes to her child. I think they are totally off the wall but should be respected. I would definitely ask that she provides everything your GD needs when she's with you.
Just an aside, I'm sure I read you shouldn't use mineral water to make up formula.

Indinana Mon 25-Apr-16 11:15:54

Oh yes, air! Gosh, let's hope you don't live too near a busy road with all the exhaust pollutants shock. She may have to bring oxygen cylinders along too grin

Luckygirl Mon 25-Apr-16 10:46:37

Indeed you should ask her to provide everything - water, air to breathe, the whole lot!

Alea Mon 25-Apr-16 10:45:06

Oo-er luckygirl confused
I could understand the morality of taking calves away from their mums so that the rest of us can enjoy dairy produce, but "discomfort to the cows being milked" well, there's a thought.
Is that OP's point, that dairy is out of the question? I hope the baby doesn't miss out on her calcium etc in that case.

Judthepud2 Mon 25-Apr-16 10:35:39

If DIL is going to be so fussy, then I'm with Shysal. Ask her to provide what is needed to feed the little one. IMO at 18 months, she needs to be exposed to the real world or she will end up full of allergies!

Heaven preserve us from these neurotic parents!

Luckygirl Mon 25-Apr-16 10:23:39

The moral reasons are clearly to do with causing discomfort to the cow when squeezing her teats - heaven forfend. grin

Alea Mon 25-Apr-16 10:19:57

We used to boil water then let it cool. Won't that do? If not, then bottled I suppose. Can't you have it delivered by Internet shopping? But by the age of 18 months most babies are past needing everything to be sterilised.
Now, healing water really makes the mind boggle!!
I am surprised though tha your DIL has left weaning to the week she goes back to work - leaking boobs, inconsolable baby etc ? All too complicated, I would have thought a "trial run" might have been a good idea.
How about soya/almond etc milk if formula or cow's is unacceptable? What are the "moral reasons"??

Indinana Mon 25-Apr-16 10:17:33

I'm with jings on this one. Why do people go out of their way to make their lives so flipping complicated? confused
Hope you find some solution NanaHolly - I'd do what shysal suggests. Good luck.

shysal Mon 25-Apr-16 10:07:45

I suggest you ask to be provided with everything you will need each time she comes to you.
I hope you enjoyed the christening.

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 25-Apr-16 09:51:18

Just give her the same water you drink? Any drinking water laid on by the authorities in the UK is safe

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 25-Apr-16 09:49:17

God save us from the cranks of this world!

Sorry. Can't help. But sympathies to you.

NanaHolly Mon 25-Apr-16 09:44:11

My granddaughter was christened yesterday (she's 18 mos), so of course, she and her development were the topic of the day - for 3 GMs, 2 GFs, 2 GGM along with aunts, friends...
I generally keep the "you should try/ be doing" parenting suggestions to myself, and this was no exception. The discussion amongst a few others got rather intense. DIL will be going back to work this week, and will thus be forced to wean GD. Milk is out of the question for 'moral' reasons. Apparently there is vegan formula in powder form out there (news to me). Amazingly the controversy was not about the 'morality' of the formula itself - it concerned the water. DIL uses mineral water, her own mother says nothing but 'healing water' (must find out what that is) is appropriate. The other grandmother and I just gave each other a look and stayed quiet.
My specific dilemma: Now that I won't be able to give GD pumped mother's milk when I have her, what do I do? Our tap water is NOT potable (above ground water lines). Bottled water is a problem as I do not have a car and can't carry the weight over such a long stretch. We installed a reverse osmosis unit for exactly that reason and use it for everything other than the washing machine, shower and toilet. Can I use this water without saying anything? (In good conscience, probably not.) Do others use this? According to the literature, it's supposed to be good for baby food. What are your suggestions? I'm sure others out here have children with strong ideas about parenting?