Fatty Liver.....how do you know if you've got it?

Hi Rowantree it was picked up on a scan .I'm trying a few Jamie Oliver recipies from his new book superfoods .he has a,recipie for granola,I do feel well on it, some weight off and the granola recipe is very useful .can be made up into a hot drink .topping .pancakes porridge etcl

Tried to imagine it as I snuck a couple of squares of dark, 80% chocolate last night. But no, clogged as ever.

The latter I think Rowan - that's a step too far even for me!

jingl I'm trying to wean myself off bread, cakes and sugar for as long as I can in order to lose some weight and those horrible gobbets of fat oozing around inside round my liver, heart and other slimy organs. I do enjoy bread though. I just want to lose some of the taste of it.

granjura How does cocoa butter clean yer arteries? I'm intrigued. It's a lovely thought, but is it backed up by science or wishful thinking? ;-)

Chocolate instead of bread, granjura ? With egg filling?

yum.....

Disagree- just switch to 70% good quality chocolate made with proper cocoa butter and no palm oil (palm oil clogs your arteries, real cocoa butter cleans them) and just have 2 squares- and suck them very slowly to get the full benefit.

Why on earth would a couple of slices of bread have done any damage?? . Worry more about any mayonnaise there might have been in the sarnie.

I must try to do that in future. Hoping the sandwich isn't going to do too much damage!

Rowantree I often take a hard boiled egg with me for a snack/lunch, or a small packet of nuts.

Went out with DD2 and DGD today and had lunch in a cafe. The only thing I could have was an egg sandwich which means BREAD :-( which I wasn't going to have!

Resisted all cakes and ice cream though.

It's not easy when there is no option. Maybe I should have brought a hardboiled egg with me.

Hi rowantree it's good to hear the determination in your posts ? you will need to resist chocolate etc. for a while (six weeks to form or break a habit) and you will gradually realise you are craving it less and less. You just have to be strong. When you see chocolate in the shop just say No! and walk past. Make a healthy shopping list and stick to it. (Remember to take it with you! Mine used to lie on the kitchen table till I downloaded a shopping list app. Now I have to remember my phone!)

Iza Big respect for ADF for 3 months! Good point about eating earlyish. So actually skipping breakfast is no bad thing. I'm often just not hungry, whereas if I do eat breakfast I feel hungry again halfway through the morning - even after eating oats, mixed seeds and a few nuts with semi skimmed milk.

For me, cutting out chocolate, sweets, cakes and bread will be hell but even if I weaken now and then I'm going to give it a go.

I'm just starting on a LCSF way of eating (Low Carbs, Sensible Fat).
I'm not going to follow Michael Mosley slavishly but I do want to cut out sugary stuff, cakes, and bread as far as possible - with the exception of real wholegrain wholemeal bread occasionally. We met friends out today and went for lunch to a Wholefood cafe so I was able to choose some delicious veggie salads, including pulses, and had some red fruits afterwards.
However, we then went to visit Ham House and had the obligatory cuppa in the NT caff....and I weakened and had a scone. Now I am feeling distinctly unwell with a rather sore stomach and I'm not sure why - and guilty that I fell at the first hurdle and scoffed a scone before I'd given myself a chance to get into a different way of eating.

Oh well, tomorrow is another day..... exit stage left, spiralising a slug

If you eat early in the evening, no later than 7 and have nothing else until breakfast you are effectively fasting for 12 hours. If you can last longer than that and have brunch around 11 that is even better. That will help your visceral fat (fat stored around organs) to go. The latest research does indicate that fasting is the way to go. If you cannot do it during the day, then overnight for a long period is the next best thing. I fasted alternate days completely for three months as I was diagnosed as diabetic and was determined to knock in on the head. I have reversed it and my visceral fat levels have also fallen. A win win situation for me. If you are determined you will succeed. If not, you won't.

And yes it was hell ......... but worth it.

And I still prefer to keep away from the saturated kind.

Of course it's fine to eat some fatty foods. We need fat. Just not too much.

I'm not a scientist. I'm going on commonsense. I don't have to give evidence!

Or do you simply mean, don't go OTT, but it's fine to eat cheese, butter, and some fatty foods?

On what evidence do you base that jingl?

Thank you Anya.

I reiterate my personal advice. Do not eat too much saturated fat. It will clog your arteries. And that will lead to heart disease.

jingl - it is insulin that lays down fat stores in the body, or arteries, if we're specifically talking arteries, or in the liver.

Insulin is the substance secreted when blood sugars exceed 'normal ' - it 'mops up' excess and, as it has to go somewhere (as per the Law of Conservation of Mass) it stores the excess glucose in fat cells.

The reason for surges in blood sugar levels is excess sugar. Carbohydrates are easily broken down into their constituent sugars and hit the blood stream PDQ.

Fats also break down into their constituent sugars through the process of digestion. BUT it is much harder for the digestive system to break them down and it takes much longer. Consequently the sugars from fats take longer to reach the blood steam and are released more slowly so very little chance of a 'sugar high'.

I think some people think that fats enter the bloodstream as little droplets of fat. They don't. Fats are broken down into sugars too.

Enjoy.

I hope Rowantree and others seeking good health can follow your obviously excellent example.

Got yer spiraliser at the ready Rt?

No idea about calories because I don't count them. Portion sizes are smaller because the plate isn't full of bread, potatoes, rice, pasta etc. Fats mostly olive oil, some butter, cream about once a month, no puddings, cakes or biscuits. Moderate amounts of cheese. All food home cooked from fresh ingredients. No need to read labels because there aren't any.
Cholesterol very healthy and blood tests show excellent liver functions.

Nothing wrong with cutting down on carbs. It's the high fat bit that is downright dangerous. The weight you are losing is because you are eating fewer calories overall. Probably smaller portions. The fat in the cream and the butter will still quite probably be clogging up your arteries. And encouraging fat round your liver.

Thin with clogged arteries? No thank you.

Anya I avoid that website. The ridiculous name puts me off.

Same for us GA. Significant weight loss to BMI of 21 and no problem sustaining the LCHF way of eating for over two years now. I am off BP tablets and my cholesterol levels are low. OH is completely out of pre-diabetes and off statins because of the drop in cholesterol levels. Feel great and have loads of energy.
Our doctor is also a bit bemused but very happy.