Privatisation of the NHS - Worth a watch if you have time

I see you've caught up, whitewave.
I posted this in June on a different thread.
www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2014/06/25/how-our-nhs-has-been-abolished/

The first line of your post is unnecessary and unpleasant, jen. There are hundreds of posts on GN every day. It's easy to miss any of them.

Besides, where's the harm in saying something important again?

"see you've caught up" indeed

So have you looked at either link?

So the tories have won. The privatisation of the NHS can carry on and nobody is interested enough to comment on it.

Yes (and rather a lot of others about the NHs and the NHA party) but that's beside my point which is that the first line of the post of 17:36:21 on 2 Sept is rude. It struck me as the sort of thing a sarcastic teacher might say to a child who was slow to understand something. That's all.

That was a reply to your penultimate post, jen.

The fact that people don't respond to certain posts of yours does not mean they are not interested. You seem to assume that it does. That is a wrong assumption.

It would be nice to see a comment about the NHS.
If I hadn't written something the whole thread would have dropped out of sight, as it would if I hadn't written anything this morning. It was number 50 on the list.

Off to teach my autistic grandson now. I'll try not to say anything sarcastic to him.

There is life outside these pages. Not commenting on here could mean that someone is too busy taking more practical steps about the very thing you believe they are not interested in.

Hectoring is not usually a successful method of engaging people, durhamjen.

Oh gosh - sorry to have caused such a flurry, but I have been so busy with DH, elderly mother and walking the dog that I haven't had time to look at GN since I put this on line.

durham I am afraid I missed this first time around as GN gets left by me for a while at times as life gets so hectic with Mum grandchildren as now DH with his pneumonia which by the way isn't getting any worse and he seems to be less weak HOORAY!!!!

Durhamjen I am sure you know all about concentrating on DH when he is seriously ill, so had you known about Whitewave's situation you would not have jumped down her throat. I remember your posts, and the sensitivity with which you were treated at that time of your husband's death.

This does highlight that sarcasm is not a weapon to be used lightly. You do seem to be a bit quick to dish it out at the moment. Are you unhappy?

I don't want to get caught up in the above debate, but just to make a comment about the NHS.
One of my sons worked in the NHS for years, but his section was privatised last autumn.( I can't go into details as it is an ongoing matter of huge dispute here at the moment.)
Sufficient to say that the new private company are a disgrace.
They are cuttings corners to the great detriment of patients and staff alike. The whole service is in complete chaos.
I watched the video link, thank you for posting it. We need to make more people aware of what is happening to our NHS.

Yes I am absolutely at a loss why we aren't all jumping up and down and screaming blue murder, I keep wondering if I have missed something.

Just maybe people are not bothered about private health. I am sure nobody would mind if it meant that everyone had access to good health treatment but it would seem from USA that that is not the case, and in a civilised society I cannot understand how anyone can justify whole sections being without any form of health care, any more than we could justify whole sections being without education,

I agree with you whitewave. Sorry about your husband and his pneumonia. Hope you realise from other comments that I am not as insensitive as people make out.
However, I wish people would discuss the message, from either you or me and henetha, rather than bother about the messenger.

I am sure people would rather attack me again for putting another link on this thread, but please read it first. If enough of us had thought about it a long time ago and not allowed as much privatisation, this would not have happened.

Before anybody comments on it, I know this started under a labour government. It doesn't matter. What matters is that mixing private and NHS allowed this to happen.

www.theguardian.com/society/2014/sep/03/four-heart-experts-jailed-fraud-nhs-trust-basildon-thurrock

The BBC have got hold of this story now, and it was featured on our local Spotlight this evening. Publicity, at last! We need a huge outcry about the NHS and how sections of it are being handed to people interested only in making money.

Do you live in Essex, henetha?
My ex daughter in law's father does, and he has had heart problems last year and this. I do not know which hospital he goes to, but I imagine something like this in the news will be very upsetting.
The area has now lost four heart doctors.

Not Essex, durhamjen. I live in Devon. But it's happening all over the U.K.
Yes, anyone with serious heart problems etc, must be very concerned about what is happening to the NHS. Especially if they watch whitewave's link yesterday.

I had serious heart problems last year, henetha, an aortic dissection.
Fortunately it has all but healed now, although I need a change in medication, coming off the beta blockers and going onto something else.
I was told this in mid july, and it has taken until today to have a phone call with my GP, who is retiring, so I have to have a face to face next week with a new GP to get my prescrition changed. At leats I do not have to have a heart operation, which would be very worrying.

Anyway, about Allyson Pollock.
She has helped to produce a new bill which will get rid of the Health and care bill that has been the problem over the last couple of years.
They actually want our comments on it.
Here's the link.
https://www.opendemocracy.net/node/85583

I'm appalled to hear how long you had to wait for a phone call from your GP in view of the seriousness of your heart condition. So glad to hear that it is healing up now, and hope your new GP will be helpful. Yes, you must be highly relieved that surgery is not required.
Our surgery now have this phone call system, and we all hate it around here. If only they called back within 48 hours, say,it wouldn't be so bad, but it is often over a week, or in one case that I know of, three weeks, before they phone back.
I had never heard of Allyson Pollock, but she sounds just what we need.
Let's hope she succeeds.
I will now read that link. Thanks.
Good wishes. Hen.

I can't get that link to open. My server says it is not available at present.
I will try again later.

Just checked, henetha, and the link worked okay for me.
Allyson Pollock is the woman who did the TED talk in the OP.

Yes, just tried it again and it works. This is only a flying visit to GN , so I will read it properly later.

Simon Stevens has said that the Labour party will not be able to ban privatisation of NHS sevices because it will be against the law.
Here's the interesting link to his statement.

pulsetoday.msgfocus.com/c/16zk0fPwRsbL07zv6Rj6V3x

What I do not understand is why the Labour Party cannot bring in another law.