Ginette; do you like exercise of any kind? Because that would lift you mentally [she says having put off going to the gym yet again 
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Don't be daft! 
DD&Co have a very complicated life that can't really be disturbed for the next couple of years, until she has completed her law degree. 2 jobs, 2 small children with a complicated care network, plus her tutorials,. SiL works for a company that designs racing car seats. He is saving up to start his own company, but that will be some years down the line. He can work anywhere he likes then. However, I'm not holding my breath, they have made a life there and have loads of friends, a good social life (when they can fit it in) and really good support network. Plus all of his family, who are lovely. I think if they had come up here sooner, it would have been fine, but why should they want to leave it just for us? The only reason would be a better house for the same money. Theirs is tiny, I can see it becoming a problem. Even so...
Loved living in Yorkshire and Lincolnshire, but oh the long, long winters... I'm not sorry to see the back of them.
janerowena Why can't they afford to leave? Is it the job situation?
We lived in Leeds for a few years in the 70s. We loved it there - it was a real eye-opener. My mother had prejudiced me against the North - she was brought up in St Helens during the 20s and 30s - and assumed anything North of Watford Gap was factory chimneys and blackened back-to-backs. Well, there were/are back-to-backs in some areas, but we also found wonderful countryside, interesting towns and cities and lovely friendly people. We had to move back to London for DH's job and tried to return when he applied for a lectureship, but he didn't get it - so we stayed, and though we moved to a leafier suburb in the early 80s, which is on the Kent/Surrey border, we still love returning to visit Yorkshire when we can. And now of course it would be harder to move out - we aren't brilliant at making new friends, I have some close friends locally I would miss terribly, we love the countryside and visiting places of interest not too far away from us, and last but not least, a lot of family in and around London.
And now I've hi-jacked your thread and waffled on about nothing, I'll get me coat and see meself out - not for the first time....
suebailey1 Hugs to you and 
. That must be so hard. I'm not surprised you're teary - I would be, too. It must hurt a lot. Are you able to tell her that you miss talking to her and miss the closeness you used to have?
And/or would you be able to go and stay for a few days? Not sure how far opp North your daughter's moved - our DD1 is in Norwich which isn't a million miles away, but we still don't see her very much and I do miss her loads. It's harder when there is a partner/OH involved though -( our DD1 is single now but loves living in Norwich.) Fingers crossed for you that you can find ways of lessening the pain.
He's nineteen. Very intelligent, but has a dreadful short-term memory. Vey slightly aspergic but not that an adult would notice, it was evident to other young teens a few years ago, he found them childish. Now he fits right in. He wouldn't tell us where he was going this past week, the first week was spent with the Cambridge OTC., then he went off grid and got all mysterious. He was being driven around London and Yorkshire all by himself with a lieutenant, being head-hunted to join Army intelligence! 
He said he didn't fancy it, it sounded too much like a desk job. He could never be a spy, he would forget keys, wallet, phone, passport, false name, and he knows that himself, so he reckons that army intelligence aren't intelligent! Still - fascinating, as you know, to realise what a child who I was sure would never be able to live independently, can get up to.
He came home with a crate of nice beer from a barrack somewhere in the north, he fixed their sound system for them. His father is most impressed.
janerowena - there's a lot to be said for arranged marriages 
Only just seen this thread and yes, I definitely have ENS! Though like Kiora I wouldn't actually want them back. I am happy for them that they have lives outside and have moved away. It's what they both wanted and what we wanted for them. But I do miss them terribly. We see DD2 more often because of DGD, but after each meeting I feel anxious and sad, wondering when we will see them again (and I try to keep that to myself!). We don't see DD1 that often as she lives in Norwich and we're in Saf Lunnun, but every time she comes down or we go to stay with her, it's always a wrench to say goodbye.
I loved being a mother. We always will be mothers but it's the loss of important role which is difficult to bear, even though the void is filled with other things. It still feels as if I'm filling time, but then I struggle with depression and anxiety so I'm not sure which came first.
The house feels very empty without them in it, and while I used to yearn for my own time and company at times when they were smaller, now I hate being by myself for too long! There's no pleasing some people, is there? 
Well, you get torn, don't you. You want them to have as normal a life as possible, and he loves his Uni life far more than he did his school life. I keep on hoping that a nice bossy well-organised girl will come along, but he doesn't even notice the signs when a girl likes him. He is a very high-functioning aspergic, with a great sense of humour. But he cannot tell whether people like him, has an appalling short-term memory (so would never remember their birthday) and can be rather blunt and too truthful on occasion which is fortunately tempered by good manners! He says that he doesn't think that he wants a girlfriend until he can afford to take her out properly. There's a girl on his course that I think he likes. When I see her pop up on facebook I practically have to sit on my hands to stop myself sending her a message asking her out on his behalf! I hadn't really thought about the sharing of the worry aspect, I think you have a point there.
It'd be far far worse if he was stuck at home and couldn't go to uni. Although that doesn't actually make it any easier [it should; but it doesn't 
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