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Kumon ruining our holiday

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BlueBelle Sat 21-Jul-18 07:48:32

...and for what ? I struggled with maths beyond everyday stuff but have worked well all my life with just an ordinary and reasonable knowledge of what anyone would have Never needed or used all the geometry Trig and algebra that I hated so much
I m not familiar with Kumon beside knowing the name but anything that makes a child so unhappy can’t be good

aggie Sat 21-Jul-18 07:34:18

Oh how I hated that Kuman session when one of my GC was visiting ,the crying , the screaming ..but she was , and still is , a very bright child . I got it done in half the time with bribery flattery and promises

NfkDumpling Sat 21-Jul-18 07:07:19

Can you not do the papers together?

Once she’s got started, wander off and do the washing up while still interacting, so she feels she’s doing it on her own but chatting her through it so it gets done in double time. It’s not really cheating, and you are her gran so entitled to bend rules a bit.

sodapop Sat 21-Jul-18 06:55:02

I agree with Stella1949 pick your battles. Your family obviously trust you to do the best for your grandchildren. You can adjust the study time to suit your schedule. If you don't make an issue of it neither will your granddaughter. Enjoy your holiday.

stella1949 Sat 21-Jul-18 06:05:22

I'd let her do it for 10 minutes ( as mentioned by BlueBelle , using the "fast watch" method. ) Then when she is gone to play, finish the rest for her. If questioned she'll say yes, she did the maths , and you get a peaceful holiday. And the parents can see the "evidence" to ensure that you did indeed get the maths done. You have to pick your battles - don't fight over it, just manipulate things to your own advantage.

BlueBelle Sat 21-Jul-18 05:36:43

An hour a day on holiday ...ridiculous, ten minutes maybe
How old is she ? Can’t you have a fast watch .... ten mins later ‘oh well done darling all done for today you were quick, let’s get ready to go out’
Nothing like putting her off maths for life eh

notanan2 Sat 21-Jul-18 01:06:34

The thing is that in recent years the emphasis on maths has increased 10 fold! So if she hates maths it's not something she can avoid, it's not just one subject among many any more.

It shouldn't be that way but it is, and parents have to do what they think is best to help them swim not sink as they PLOUGH through the maths topics at school now, if a kid needs some extra time to grasp some topics, that needs to be done at home.

Yes Kumon isnt the most imaginative way to help, but with most parents having learnt "old maths" it can be hard to help with "new maths" so some outsource.

fiorentina51 Sat 21-Jul-18 01:00:29

Poor little blighter. If she doesn't hate maths already, she soon will!

notanan2 Sat 21-Jul-18 00:49:09

we don't know why the parents prioritised this, might be the child is upset about noticing that she's behind her peers. Might be that she has a flair for ANOTHER subject but these days you cannot progress academically at anything without good grades in English & maths so... who knows...

But there are things you can do to make it less miserable:

Agree the schedule WITH the child:

Does she want to get it over with after breakfast? or does she prefer to do it in the afternoon? let her chose her study time table.

Time limit it so it doesn't create a dragged out battle. 30 mins at a time. If it doesn't get finished it'll be revisited later (or in the morning if she prefers pm working), but once the timer goes she can stop because after that long work quality goes down anyway & the kid'll start to get upset/hate it, and knowing that not finishing means an extra session later/tomorrow will give incentive to get it over with now.

Namsnanny Sat 21-Jul-18 00:32:32

BTW Grannypauline,

I'm not even allowed to take my gc's for a 2min walk, so the thought of taking them on holiday seems marvellous to me!!
smile

Namsnanny Sat 21-Jul-18 00:22:32

Grannypauline.....

I feel sorry for all of you.
You've been handed a poison chalice, but I cant see you ducking out of it, as you point out there will be adverse consequences.

Can the Kumon exercises be broken down into say 10 min slots?
Then could each 10 mins be completed whilst in the car, on the beach, in the café etc.?

I was lead to believe Kumon should be short goal orientated exercises? One hour seems too soul sappingly boring to be helpful...especially on holiday!!

Are the parents particularly anxious about her academic progress to insist on this?

Or perhaps you could:

a) do the work yourself!! wink

b) 'accidentally' pour wine on it! wine

c) bribe the girl with goodies!! shock

notanan2 Fri 20-Jul-18 23:57:43

Is the child going for 11+ in September?

grannypauline Fri 20-Jul-18 23:41:10

Here I am with the granddaughters on a lovely holiday and the parents (who are not with us) have demanded that a Kumon paper a day (up to one hour) is completed by one of them.

It is a raging battle as she hates doing it. As a retired Maths teacher I regard the Kumon Maths system as useless, unimaginative, and likely to put many children off Maths for ever. It consists of very repetitive arithmetic sums.

I am forced into the role of persecutor; " we can't go out and enjoy ourselves till you finish yesterday's task." I secretly admire her obstinate refusal to do this boring stuff but have to enforce it otherwise I'm quite sure I won't be allowed to take them on holiday again.

Has anyone else had this sort of problem?