Irish passport as a Brexit protest

I am an Irish citizen because my father was born on the island of Ireland.
I have an Irish passport.
My children to claim an Irish passport first have to claim their right as Irish citizens.
This is the foreign births register, once accepted on the FBR they can claim a passport.
It stops with them.
There was talk in RTE radio they may stop grandchildren applying in the future.

It depends on what grounds you got the Irish passport. If you got one on the basis that you have an Irish born grandparent(s) then no your children wouldn’t be entitled to Irish citizenship unless they were born after you got citizenship. If you or your parent was born in Ireland then they would be entitled. I don’t think you can claim further back than a grandparent.

Thanks DamaskRose

Indigo8

Apologies if this question has been answered on previous page, I did check but I may have missed something.

If I obtain an Irish passport does that mean that my children can have one even if their father has no Irish ancestors and they have never lived in Ireland?

As far as I know yes they are. I think also your grandchildren. I was born in Ireland and feel very strongly that I am entitled to hold an Irish passport.

Apologies if this question has been answered on previous page, I did check but I may have missed something.

If I obtain an Irish passport does that mean that my children can have one even if their father has no Irish ancestors and they have never lived in Ireland?

Brexit not going too well, is it?

It’s not “playing the system”. I’m proud of my Irish heritage and visit Ireland often. Everyone is super welcoming. I don’t live there but I’m entitled to an Irish passport and EU citizenship. Why not? I didn’t want to be a little Englander, or loose my EU status so why should so I have to?

My OH successfully applied for an Irish passport. I'm hoping Yorkshire becomes a sovereign state.

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I don’t have any Irish relatives and so no, I won’t be applying because I wouldn’t be eligible. However I wouldn’t bother if I did have an Irish relative. If all these people really want to be Irish, may I respectfully suggest they go to live in Ireland rather than playing the system.

I meant I was over debating it.

fancythat you may have been "over" Brexit three years ago.

I think Brexit and the questions around it is very much alive - it really is just in its infancy.

I don't honestly believe we will (as a country) "get over" Brexit for generations.

MaizieD

fancythat

But they can do both. Surely?

Both what? Vote for everyone to lose their freedom of movement then protect their own with an Irish passport?

Yes.

Brexit was far far from just this issue.

Not going to get into a debate about Brexit.
I was over that at least 3 years ago.

bUt Norway has a reciprocal arrangement with the EU no visas required.

Our son only has a British passport, he lives and works in Oslo. It was perfectly straightforward to get his visa and residency.

Sago - but if he had an EU passport he wouldn't have needed to get visas etc and would be able to live and work anywhere in the EU.

Norway is not in the EU.

P.S. in some countries I seem to remember you couldn't buy property.

Requests from British citizens to have Irish passports apparently surged 1,200% Since Brexit according to Bloomberg. Germany has the next highest applications.
Here is an article and chart from The Economist which only goes up to 2019.

www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2020/01/07/more-britons-than-ever-are-seeking-eu-passports?utm_medium=cpc.adword.pd&utm_source=google&ppccampaignID=18156330227&ppcadID=&utm_campaign=a.22brand_pmax&utm_content=conversion.direct-response.anonymous&gclid=CjwKCAjwgqejBhBAEiwAuWHioLQlGugO6FRjopdGKOhxiF5yzhY8BDFKqg9w3OwRBEJbLFoFjAGdvhoCdDEQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

Giving up passports - this is a thing too as you can't have dual citizenship in many countries:

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-british-citizenship-renounced-b2256828.html

I also read (ages ago) of the diminished rights of residency v being a passport holder. But don't know how (or even if) this affects Norway, Sago. Some Gransnetters from Spain or France may have more knowledge on this.

Sago - but if he had an EU passport he wouldn't have needed to get visas etc and would be able to live and work anywhere in the EU.

I can't actually see why having a "way round it" is at all the same as losing the privilege of free movement.

paddyann54

You can do it if you have a great grandparent who is Irish I have a whole squad of them ,sadly I cant find their birth details apparently lost during the Rebellion .I'm heading for Donegal later this year to see if parish registers have them

Great idea. I have great-grandparents there too I thought lost in time.

Fleurpepper

Camellia20

Several people I know who voted for Brexit have Irish or other EU passports. I felt European and wanted to retain the advantages that European citizenship brings.
In the jobs market, will my children, who love Europe, and grandchildren be discriminated against in favour of applicants who have an EU passport if that job requires frequent and prolonged European travel? Could that be challenged?

It's been happening already. So far mainly for jobs in tourism, ski, sailing, etc, instructors, guides, leaders, managers, etc. But I expect this will also be the case for interpreters, international lawyers, accountants, marketing, and so much more.

Our son only has a British passport, he lives and works in Oslo. It was perfectly straightforward to get his visa and residency.

Camellia20

Several people I know who voted for Brexit have Irish or other EU passports. I felt European and wanted to retain the advantages that European citizenship brings.
In the jobs market, will my children, who love Europe, and grandchildren be discriminated against in favour of applicants who have an EU passport if that job requires frequent and prolonged European travel? Could that be challenged?

It's been happening already. So far mainly for jobs in tourism, ski, sailing, etc, instructors, guides, leaders, managers, etc. But I expect this will also be the case for interpreters, international lawyers, accountants, marketing, and so much more.

I’m still hoping for Scottish Independence for eventually making freedom of movement available to me and my children and grandchildren.

Several people I know who voted for Brexit have Irish or other EU passports. I felt European and wanted to retain the advantages that European citizenship brings.
In the jobs market, will my children, who love Europe, and grandchildren be discriminated against in favour of applicants who have an EU passport if that job requires frequent and prolonged European travel? Could that be challenged?

fancythat

But they can do both. Surely?

Both what? Vote for everyone to lose their freedom of movement then protect their own with an Irish passport?