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petra Fri 10-Jan-14 18:09:09

Fingers crossed I will have ' my' Bungalow at some time in the next 3 months. I have never grown Clematis but would love to have some.
I went to the Library today to read up on them. Pheww. It sounds more like a science than enjoyable gardening. Are they over egging it, or are they relatively ' easy'.
OH won't be best pleased if I go and spend money and they die.

POGS Sun 26-Jan-14 17:18:31

tefela

Yes I think I will have another bash having read this thread.

Galen Sun 26-Jan-14 13:56:31

My Montana scrambles over about 10ft of side fence in the garden, it gets pruned when it gets too rampant, about three tomes in over 30years. My lovely president died last year so I'm going to have replace it.

tefala Sun 26-Jan-14 13:37:22

Hi Pogs. I have a clematis in a pot facing S.E and has been ignored for about 5 years, yet each
spring it bursts in to life and gives me immense pleasure.
I feed it when I remember and top up the soil. Bless it, it keeps going. Just try and have a go.

annodomini Thu 23-Jan-14 09:36:24

The early flowering alpinas don't need to be pruned, unless they are completely out of control. I'm waiting to see what effect a bit of pruning has had on my little blue one.

Iam64 Thu 23-Jan-14 09:22:12

Yes, I suspect that's what caused the new clematis I put in, to wilt.

MrsJamJam Wed 22-Jan-14 15:57:07

No one has mentioned that when planting a new clematis if you sink it about 4 inches deeper than it was in the pot it helpss to avoid clematis wilt. I totally agree that you shouldn't be put off by pruning requirements, I ignore the book and do what I think looks best. Generally seems to work.

janerowena Wed 22-Jan-14 15:28:28

Sorry, I thought i had posted this

http://www.saga.co.uk/lifestyle/gardening/plant-portrait/how-to-grow-winter-flowering-clematis.aspx

petra Sat 18-Jan-14 09:32:00

Isn't it lovely to have all this info. I'm writing it all down in my ' gardening' book. You can read all the books but this hands on info is priceless.
Thank you, one & all.

merlotgran Sun 12-Jan-14 20:06:57

Some clematis plant labels have a diagram on the back showing how to prune for the first three of four years. It's dead easy and like Nonu I've got some that I never prune. I just let them scramble all over the place.

Nonu Sun 12-Jan-14 19:54:20

Do you know what Rowan I very rarely prune my clematis , just let nature take it"s course !
smile

Rowantree Sun 12-Jan-14 19:49:21

Nonu- love the sound of it and I am going to have to get one ;)
annodomini - I've never had any luck with the alpinas and they are meant to be really prolific flowerers and quite strong. I don't know what I do to them but I rarely get any flowers. Maybe I'm pruning them all wrong!

Nonu Sun 12-Jan-14 19:46:27

Rowan I do not know as it is so high up , However, I do not think that they are noted for their fragrance , more the beauty of their flowers , which are held on such spindley stems , they amaze me !!!
Anno sounds good !

smile

annodomini Sun 12-Jan-14 18:23:19

A very sturdy yellow one is Tangutica. I made the mistake of letting it climb up an Amelanchier tree which I later discovered was being dragged over. It is still listing but the clematis, sadly, had to go. It has those lovely shiny seed heads after flowering. Clematis alpina species are early flowering and also have a wealth of glossy seed heads - I'm hoping I haven't pruned my little blue one too hard.

Rowantree Sun 12-Jan-14 18:04:57

Oooh, thanks, Nonu smile Are the flowers scented? And is it hardy?

janerowena Sun 12-Jan-14 17:43:42

You can grow a montana over an arch or in a relatively confined space if you hack it back severely every year, and let it grow thickly and weave the tendrils in rather than let them reach out. It all takes work though. You end up having to have a notebook of what to do in each month.

At an early stage of my gardening career (after 18 years of boring office stuff) I got a job looking after posh rental country houses and cottages for an estate agency. Once the tenants had left I would go in and tidy the gardens and make them look pretty for new prospective tenants. I had a week to do it in. At one place I nearly cried because I had carefully trained an existing montana all over some really ugly abandoned dog kennels. The agency made me cut it all back when it was in full flower because the next tenant owned a single small pampered dog and they 'might want to use the kennels'. I hadn't obstructed anything, just made it less of an eyesore. When I had removed it all, they agreed with me...

Nonu Sun 12-Jan-14 17:40:22

better than nothing though Jess !
I have just looked in my garden book and the variety of clematis is
Cirrhosa
This is the blurb --
This is usually the first of the clematis to flower :according to most books it begins to bloom in midwinter . These flowers are bell shaped , with a papery texture and are creamy -white in colour.
That describes mine to a T. Glad I have sorted that out , should have done it before , bit lazy I suppose !!
So get planting Rowan ready for two or three years hence !
smile s to all .
I do so love my garden !

JessM Sun 12-Jan-14 17:09:39

nonu it is balcony. I have rented out my garden and moved. I have a pot with parsley, another pot with pansies and 2 pots of bulbs. But I help out in an NT garden and that helps me to cope!

Rowantree Sun 12-Jan-14 17:06:59

Would love to know the name of Nonu's creamy coloured one though smile Let me know if you remember!

Rowantree Sun 12-Jan-14 17:05:48

Ooooh, yes, JessM, I'd forgotten about armandii! I love mine. Not sure if it's in flower yet though, but I did cut it back quite a bit last autumn so I might have lost some of the flowers. It was getting very rampant and scrambling over everything!

Nonu Sun 12-Jan-14 16:58:47

Hi Jess. no it is not an Amandii, although I do have one of those [quite keen on clematis]. The flowers are creamy yellow and leaves quite small and jagged . I will have to look it up in my book !
We live in the centre of town and several years ago we were able to purchase some land at the end of the existing garden , we are lucky as they are both walled so stuff does quite well , although do get Drawn up a bit , not that I care !
What size is your garden ?
smile

JessM Sun 12-Jan-14 16:41:41

Armandii if it is in flower now nonu - glossy evergreen job with white flowers? Or are you living in another continent?
You must have a flipping enormous garden! More of an estate if you have several montana!

whenim64 Sun 12-Jan-14 16:39:05

I love Montana, but they need space and height and don't like to share with other plants unless they dominate. My next door neighbour has a Clematis Aromatica, which is purple/lilac with white centre. It has gradually become intertwined with my white climbing rose, and they look sensational together.

Nonu Sun 12-Jan-14 16:19:11

i think Montana are just grand , have several in my garden.
At the moment we have a creamy coloured clematis going full blast , not sure of name , do remember planting several years ago though !
smile

JessM Sun 12-Jan-14 16:01:42

I would never consider a montana unless i was desperate to cover a huge unsightly shed or garage. They will quite quickly grow to this size and beyond and the flowering season is quite short. There are plenty of more restrained types that do not smother everything they can manage to scramble over.

Galen Sun 12-Jan-14 15:16:04

Thanks