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Do snails have feelings?

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Backagain Tue 16-Jul-13 13:22:51

Help. I haven't done any of this gardening mullarky before - DH was the outside wallah. Not that he was exactly gripped by it - we only ever had roses and lavender (I do not say "only" in a derogatory way, I do love both roses and lavender), and geraniums if we had managed to get to the flower market in Hackney at the right time. The garden I have inherited with the house I have moved to has obviously been loved but has become neglected. I'd thought to leave it for this year as I cannot afford the time or expense to do anything about it, and see what came up. But I couldn't leave it altogether so am trying to do a bit here and there and am loving it. I found a chimney stack thing and filled it with soil (the soil is just heavenly, rich and mixed with the sand that blows up all the time from the shore, so easy to dig into) and planted a french lavender in DH's memory. It has come on really well, but I noticed today that the nasturtiums, which are rampant everywhere and were trailing prettily down the chimney stack sides, seemed to be strangling the lavender - it was starting to droop. So I decided to sacrifice the nasturtiums. When I started poking around to pull them out I discovered a positive colony of snails - there were about two dozen of them, all sizes, huddled up together. I know (I think) that snails eat veggies and I have planted quite a few Jamie Oliver things that DS bought me for Mother's Day. So, ruthless, I pulled all these snails off the inside of the inside of the chimney stack and put them in a bucket.
I feel like Attila the Hun.
What do I do with them? confused

Nelliemoser Tue 16-Jul-13 19:59:12

Marelli There is no way I could eat enough eggs! grin

Bags Tue 16-Jul-13 20:17:43

Not even if you collected all your eggshells for a year, nellie? Wash them out, let them dry, keep them in a bucket.

I've done that.

whenim64 Tue 16-Jul-13 20:22:24

I've used coffee grounds, rosemary twigs and crushed eggshells in an unbroken circle round my peas and beans. It seems to work, but to look at that bed, you'd think a practising witch had been scattering her spells and making slug curses! grin

dahlia Tue 16-Jul-13 20:23:00

Copper wire is very effective, or you can buy something called Slug Band which you put around your flower pots (it has a sticky backing) - very effective for DH's hostas, but obviously not practical for flower beds. I do my best to live and let live in the garden, but when I came down the garden to find some beasties had chewed the heads off the irises, I wasn't so charitable! Good thing about this dry spell, no sign of the slugs which usually gallop across the garden in the damp weather. Nothing seems to eat slugs, though spent a lovely five minutes watching a thrush disinter and gobble a snail this morning. We have plenty of birds, toads and frogs, but nothing fancies the flavour of a slug! smile

Deedaa Tue 16-Jul-13 22:01:55

I use slug pellets for the slugs, but I try to collect up as many snails as I can and throw them over into the playing field because I've always rather liked snails. When I was little I used to catch them and keep them in a bucket full of grass. Actually we've not had that many slugs or snails this year. Presumably it's a combination of the very cold spring and the hot, dry weather we're having now.

Aka Tue 16-Jul-13 22:27:40

Get a hedgehog or better still a pregnant hedgehog,

nanaej Tue 16-Jul-13 22:35:29

www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2006/sep/23/practicaladvice.homesandgardens1

Also you can get eco-pellets! I tend to collect mine and put them in the cuttings bag that goes to the tip, it is kept in a passage way away from the main garden so takes a while for them to crawl back!

My problem is cabbage white caterpillars..they consumed all my broccoli leaves!

nanaej Tue 16-Jul-13 22:36:28

I collect the slugs and snails and not the eco pellets!!! Sorry just read my post and saw how ambiguous it was!

Granny23 Wed 17-Jul-13 00:00:55

I use slug/snail traps half filled with beer. They die happy and when I empty them onto the bird table my feathered friends scoff the lot, pronto and then sing for their supper grin

Bags Wed 17-Jul-13 07:25:18

Ah yes. I used to use beer traps as well. <visions of drunken blackbirds>

The other thing the blackbirds got pissed on was sloes that had been making sloe gin. I dumped the filtered out sloes onto the compost heap. Oops.

annodomini Wed 17-Jul-13 08:26:36

If only slugs/snails liked dandelions! I thought it would be a good idea to collect snails and drown them in a bucket of water, only to find them happily climbing out. I chuck them over the brook, hoping they won't find their way back. However, now there is hardly any water in the brook.

JessM Wed 17-Jul-13 14:00:35

Do they have feelings? Well they have quite complex nervous systems. They are distant cousins to octopus and squid which are the intellectual genius twins of the invertebrate world.
These complex nervous systems allow them to engage in intricate hermaphrodite mating rituals in which they shoot each other with a "love dart" and reel each other in, before exchanging sperm. In this weather they will be aestivating (hot? dry? - go into your shell and seal it up until it rains.) Slugs will nearly all be underground. Suspect any hosta damage is done and dusted for this year. My garden is dying of heat not molluscs.

Galen Wed 17-Jul-13 14:43:42

I like molluscs, but only the marine variety

JessM Wed 17-Jul-13 15:56:52

Prejudice Galen ? grin

Galen Wed 17-Jul-13 18:17:34

All the leaves have been eaten off my chili and there are 6 snails clustered round it.
As doctor I can't take a life! Help!

Ana Wed 17-Jul-13 18:38:37

They'll probably die of indigestion, galen...grin

Galen Wed 17-Jul-13 18:43:24

One can but hope.
Thou shalt not kill
But need not strive
Needlessly
To keep alive!

Grossi Thu 18-Jul-13 07:41:36

In Margaret Atwood's The Year of the Flood, www.amazon.co.uk/Year-Flood-Margaret-Atwood/dp/1844085643
God's Gardeners recommend "relocating" slugs and snails.

I think that's a nice idea especially if you are not fond of your neighbours smile!

annodomini Thu 18-Jul-13 08:44:59

Tried that, Grossi, but they just crawled back. Do snails have homing instincts?

Elegran Thu 18-Jul-13 08:49:36

They may not have been the same ones. I read somewhere that when you clear out all the snails from an area another lot moves in.

vegasmags Thu 18-Jul-13 08:58:10

I find slugs and snails absolutely fascinating. There are about 80 kinds of land snails in the UK, of which about 20 occur regularly in gardens. There are about 24 kinds of slugs of which about 12 turn up in our gardens. The great grey slug hangs out in damp buildings or even a wet patio. Their mating habits are brilliant - the courting couple climb up into a bush or tree, lowering themselves on a rope of thick mucus so that mating takes place suspended in mid air.

Over the years, I have avoided planting things I know our gastropods love, but I think the best way is not to be too tidy with your gardening, as most slugs and snails seem to prefer decaying matter to fresh stuff.

whenim64 Thu 18-Jul-13 10:06:38

vegas you're welcome to the slug I pitched over my fence at 2 'clock this morning - it's headed in your direction if it carries on going! I've suspected a slug had got in the house for the last few days, as there was a trail near my cooker, and then yesterday morning I found a trail on the top of the hob. I came down in the early hours last night and there was a trail again. I opened the cupboard door next to the cooker to get a cloth and hob cleaner and there it was, crawling along the inside of the door - 3 inches long! Eughhhh!!!

I collected it in the dustpan, nipped outside and hurled the little bastard as far as I could. If it comes back, it's dead!!! grin

vegasmags Thu 18-Jul-13 10:19:19

when I bet it was a great grey - confusingly, they're not always grey! I shall look out for a harassed looking slug coming my way grin

whenim64 Thu 18-Jul-13 10:23:07

Great? ..... Great? (shakes head and wonders where that machete sharpener is) grin

JessM Thu 18-Jul-13 10:56:19

vegs that mating sounds very cirque de soleil crossed with 50 shades of grey slug.