Where were all the special needs students when we were at school?

I posed a question, didn’t mean that I believe that. It is ignorant to pre suppose that. Extremely rude and judgemental. For the record, I think very few of these children show signs of autism because of their parenting but you just go on judging people if it makes you happy and content. I am appalled.

The children in our area have specific schools relating to need.

I taught in a special school for children with very specific needs in late 70s, and it was very hard work. There were other special schools in our local authority for different specialisms. I believe every one of those schools was shut down years ago, and the land sold.
A former colleague works in a special school where I live now. All the different kinds of special needs are all in together. And the problems seem much, much greater. Her stories are devastating.
The rest of the pupils are in mainstream.

JaneJudge Thank you for your post. Well said indeed.
Nanna8 How deeply hurtful of you to blame parents. The parents of children with Special Needs devote their lives to their children. I know, because I have watched my amazing daughter and son in law over the past twelve years caring for, and bringing out the best in their son who has Special needs and Autism. Years ago a child like my grandson would have died soon after birth. We have modern medicine to thank for his survival. Thanks to the ongoing support of his multidisciplinary team and the unfailing, never ending input by his parents, he is a delightful, happy, high achieving boy. He will always have difficulties and probably never live independently. But thanks mainly to his parents he is who he is today and in main stream school DO NOT BLAME THE PARENTS.

I'm sorry I should have said you sound ignorant, you were just asking a question. It's just it used such a lot by people who want to pretend these issues didn't happen before.

My friend was adopted and he used to 'play up' in class and the school wanted him to go to an EBD school, luckily his parents had enough money to pay for him to go to a specialist private school and by the time we got to secondary school he was reintegrated back into mainstream. I guess he may have had attachment issues related to his adoption in hindsight or 'other issues' too

Also, what I find interesting is the shift in rhetoric to people should 'look after their own' . My Mums friend who has a daughter in her 50s who is very disabled got residential special schooling without question, respite if at home, overnight respite for a week if they wanted to go away, a grant to build a big extension on their home, nurses/carers who would go several times a day. That would VERY UNUSUAL now. It is difficult to even get a ECHP in infant or junior school even if the child has significant needs and respite? what respite?

I find it difficult to answer this when you have mentioned parenting in the first post. Do you know how ignorant that makes you sound?

I know of three boys AT LEAST who lived on our estate who 'went to naughty boys school' it would be an EBD school these days. There were also MLD and SLD/PMLD schools, residential schools, hospital type schools for pupils with severe illness and there were 'homes'

Children with down syndrome were not allowed to attend mainstream education until 1981.

"1981 Education Act – Local Education Authorities made provision for SEN and extended this provision to more children who were considered “handicapped”. From the introduction of this Act, children with Down syndrome started to attend mainstream schools."

I hope that answers your question

If they weren't in special schools, they were the ones who were seen as troublemakers, told off for not being able to sit still, caned or given other punishments, treated as or perceived as less intelligent because of learning disabilities that made it harder for them, and generally suffering in their self-esteem. People with autistic and ADHD traits have been documented all the way back to ancient Greece. They've always been there. They were seen as the eccentrics. They were often the geniuses and creators. Now, they are hopefully getting some understanding.

They were all lumped together and sent to a 'special school'; there was one near where we lived. These conditions are not new, they have been seen from time immemorial. It is thought that Isaac Newton had high functioning autism for example. I hope we are more enlightened now.

Those that were ' a bit thick' probably had dyslexia. I was sometimes called 'word blindness' in those days if it was identified at all. These children (predominantly boys) would have been in main stream schools but in the bottom classes even though most were clever boys. Of course then there were plenty of well paid jobs that didn't require O level English.

No child with any significant problem would be allowed in a main stream school. There were separate schools for the deaf etc. and I doubt if any child received a good academic education.

Teachers ruled classes by fear in many cases. Smacking for any naughtiness or poor work was the norm. If parents got involved there would be more punishment at home. Children had to work hard and do as they were told. Childhood wasn't a happy time for many.

My own sons are dyslexic and it was hell of a struggle but they all did well at school.

Children with additional needs were in special schools or not diagnosed and in a mainstream classroom. They received little help and were left to sink or swim. Looking back there were a number of children in my school in this situation. It was not a good situation for those children.
It's good to talk about children and their families with respect and kindness.

Its awful of me I know but no one seems just to be a bit thick anymore

Both of my children have been diagnosed with ADHD. After their diagnosis, I realized that I also have it. SO it HAS been around, just more diagnosed now. I was just labeled a troubled child who refused to work at their full potential for teachers and was punished at home despite working the hardest I could.

I also ask myself the same question in regards to food allergies. You rarely heard of them when I was a kid. Now they are everywhere.

I also wonder if there is a correlation? Is there something in our environment causing more instances OR are we better at diagnosing it?

Likely both.

I think fewer 'Special Needs' children were in mainstream schools then. Most of them were in Special Schools. When I was in teacher training there was a set of children labelled 'maladjusted' which were mostly behavioural problems which possibly were as a result of autism or ADHD, as well as social difficulties. When I moved into learning support more parents were wanting their children to be educated in mainstream schools which meant that specialist support teachers and assistants were required. I'm not sure but I think that a lot of the funding was shifted away from Special Schools at this point. Someone may be able to correct me on this.

Many weren’t in mainstream schools.

Back in the day children with special needs didn't have the medication & specialist care we have today.
Some died young, some not kept alive at birth.not
Many were hidden away in institutions.
For some, there were less skilled jobs available. Even working in a shop these days is more "skilled" than it was in the past.