Covid Vaccanation Anxiety

Time will tell if there are any long term consequences to the vaccines. We also don't know or fully understand the longer term effects of Covid either. Roll the dice, take your pick of risk.

I wasn't going to get vaccinated at all but, in the end, I decided to for a range of reasons. I'm not happy about it but that is the way I decided was best for my situation in the end.

Peasblossom

It might relieve some of your anxiety to know that the blood clots your family suffer from and the very rare blood clots reported for the vaccines are almost certainly two complete different things.

Common blot clots are mostly caused by constriction in the veins, blood cannot flow and gets thick at the point of constriction. Like a blocked up stream collects mud to put it simply.

The vaccine blood clots are an immune system reaction where platelets (the necessary stuff that makes your blood clot after you cut yourself ) attaches to a protein and makes a clot of lots of platelets stuck together.

They really have nothing to do with each other.

A bit like your house flooding because your drains got blocked up with nappies or your house flooding because it rained and the river burst.
The result might appear the same but the cause is very different.

Thank you for that info

If the vaccine refusers had done their research they would know that the Astra Zeneca vaccine was produced under a ‘not for profit’ basis.

Why is it that those who have refused the vaccine seem almost proud of their silly decision by coming on forums like this to boast about their misguided decision?

Biscuitmuncher

You do know that Pfizer and all are big businesses don't you

Never! See what I mean, Biscuitmuncher knows things that the rest of us don't!

For any that have refused a vaccination would they also refuse treatment if they had the misfortune to catch covid? Would they expect medical staff to risk their own health?. Just curious.
I have a friend who has refused the jab and refuses to wear a mask. Intelligent articulate highly educated woman late 70 s so clearly at risk herself and more , causing risk to others. She couldn’t answer that question.

CafeAuLait

Biscuitmuncher

You do know that Pfizer and all are big businesses don't you

Of course they are. However it still doesn't follow that your niece would have reacted better to a disease than the vaccine. You can't possibly know that.

Or rather, your friend's daughter.

Biscuitmuncher

You do know that Pfizer and all are big businesses don't you

Of course they are. However it still doesn't follow that your niece would have reacted better to a disease than the vaccine. You can't possibly know that.

You do know that Pfizer and all are big businesses don't you

It might relieve some of your anxiety to know that the blood clots your family suffer from and the very rare blood clots reported for the vaccines are almost certainly two complete different things.

Common blot clots are mostly caused by constriction in the veins, blood cannot flow and gets thick at the point of constriction. Like a blocked up stream collects mud to put it simply.

The vaccine blood clots are an immune system reaction where platelets (the necessary stuff that makes your blood clot after you cut yourself ) attaches to a protein and makes a clot of lots of platelets stuck together.

They really have nothing to do with each other.

A bit like your house flooding because your drains got blocked up with nappies or your house flooding because it rained and the river burst.
The result might appear the same but the cause is very different.

Biscuitmuncher

Shelflife what the TV that's there to terrify people? I'm not being injected with a brand new experimental drug, that gives what 6 months cover. My friends daughter has had her first jab and has been ill for three weeks, shes 20! Having covid wouldn't have made her that ill

You can't know that.

Shelflife what you don't understand is that Biscuitmuncher knows better than all of us. She knows better than the Oxford vaccine people, the Pfizer team, the medical authorities all over the world, the JCVI, the ONS and Uncle Tom Cobley and all.

I dare say she's done her "research".

Shelflife what the TV that's there to terrify people? I'm not being injected with a brand new experimental drug, that gives what 6 months cover. My friends daughter has had her first jab and has been ill for three weeks, shes 20! Having covid wouldn't have made her that ill

Bucuitmuncher , please go !!? Don't you watch tv!?

Well good luck then Biscuitmucher

My husband had a stroke and has post stroke epilepsy. He has had both AstraZenica vaccines and was fine afterwards. No reaction to it at all. I hope this helps.

I'm not vaccinated, I wont be bullied

NannieN, I too am reluctantly vaccinated, though wasn't bullied into it. I did choose it and called to make the appointment myself. In the end, I had my reasons. There must be reasons you decided to go ahead with it too. Focus on those.

I have committed to doing the first two shots. At this point I have not committed to any boosters in future. I'm taking it step by step. Maybe this is a good approach for you too?

Not easy to overcome an ingrained fear, especially when, as you say, you really do not know what is at the root of it,

I avoided the flu jab for a decade, not only had I never had flu, but no one in my family had either. My sisters and I had whethered a major epidemic when we were at boarding school and my father was working on a large military base. Like you I had an irrational fear. In my case that having the flu jab could actually damage my immunity.

However, I read an article that said that the flu jab did not just protect you from flu, but boostered your general level of immunity. So, with some reluctance, I had the jab. Now I cannot understand my previous irrational fears.

What you have now done has not just protected you from a far greater risk of damage to yourself but also the chance that by not having it you could be putting your nearest and dearest at risk of a dangerous and unpleasant illness.

You should not have been bullied, it's no one's business,but if they avoid you that I am afraid is their choice, as they too are frightened of catching the virus.
Desitions such as the one you made have consequences. I would not avoid you, but some people are very fearful of catching covid.
I am glad you had the vaccine but just wish it was o your terms, not because you felt bullied.

NannieN , very well done indeed for facing your fear and having the vaccine , although I think it unfair that you were bullied into it ! I do understand how fearful some people are and would normally support a persons wish not to have routine vaccination. However this is a global pandemic and if no one was vaccinated then heaven help us all. So I commend you. Personally I couldn't wait to visit the vaccine centre, had both and very relieved. I know it is not 100% but hopefully if I contact Covid I won't end up on a ventilator!!! I do hope you have the second , and have no side effects. Well done again !

You have done the right thing by being vaccinated for yourself and others. Covid cases are growing every day and the damage it can do can't be underestimated.
I understand your reluctance to take medication but in this case the vaccine is definitely the lessser evil.

NannieN first of all, well done for deciding to have the vaccine I know that you said you did it "under protest" so to speak, but you have done the right thing, for you and for people you interreact with.

Regarding blood clots, I believe that the type of blood clot that happens with the AZ vaccine is very different to the "standard" blood clot, but someone with more medical knowledge that me might come along to confirm that. But I do know that the chance of a clot is miniscule compared with the chances of being ill with Covid, and one of the results of Covid can be blood clots, of course. I had a serious blood clotting event about 10 years ago, they never found the cause but it didn't prevent me from jumping at the chance of having the vaccine.

I think it all comes down to risk; the tiny, tiny risk that you face with getting the vaccine, or the considerably larger risk of getting a bad case of Covid. If we have a headache, we can probably survive with just one paracetamol, but being vaccinated is the best way to avoid Covid which would certainly lead to much more illness and more medication.

I hope you decide to take the second dose, please let us know!

Feel a bit better regarding the Pfizer

would you feel better having the pfizer or moderna?

I was very fearful of the virus as I felt it could easily kill me, so I was keen to have the vaccine. Sometimes it's the lesser of two evils. If you caught the virus that would not have been through choice either, and it could have been much more dangerous.