Dover is closed to outbound traffic

Am guessing that Macron will be lifting the ban by tomorrow,
He’s had his time in the limelight by then.

The same four?

Well maybe turn on news 24 now then as they interviewed multiple drivers.

Every time the news was on today, it was the same Polish driver being interviewed.?

It seems to be the old adage coming to the fore with some on this thread, see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil. ?

Callistemon

^our Government^

The Swiss Government?

What are you talking about?

lemongrove

It’s no good Callistemon if posters choose to believe that all is the same because one or two drivers are interviewed, then what can you do?
Just as they are choosing to believe the lorries are being kept here due to Brexit.

Multiple drivers, aerial shots showing miles of queues & no facilities & multiple reports from people on the ground, oh and charities responding (a Sikh charity appears to have been particularly active)

our Government

The Swiss Government?

I absolutely believe the news reports and am a staunch remainer but yes constantly undermining MSM has been an absolute failing and a very bad idea.

It’s no good Callistemon if posters choose to believe that all is the same because one or two drivers are interviewed, then what can you do?
Just as they are choosing to believe the lorries are being kept here due to Brexit.

Callistemon

You tell me - because you are one who constantly tells us not to believe the MSM.

So is it a case of being economical with the truth? Or do these facilities exist?

Callistemon

biba70

''Open the border Macron.''

so you don't think other nations are not right to try to stop the spread of a mutant virus that our Government has been fully aware of since September, and have done nothing about?

Sovereignty and putting your citizens first- no?

Oh, I wondered how long

How long for what?

No

biba70

''Open the border Macron.''

so you don't think other nations are not right to try to stop the spread of a mutant virus that our Government has been fully aware of since September, and have done nothing about?

Sovereignty and putting your citizens first- no?

Oh, I wondered how long

Callistemon

My source is not the news media.

We've been told so often on GN not to trust the MSM, but now it is Gospel

I think when you see multiple people saying the same thing, standing on a road miles from nowhere with no facilities in sight the you have to work really hard to not believe them.

You tell me - because you are one who constantly tells us not to believe the MSM.

Callistemon

[sigh]

So where should we look for the evidence?

My source is not the news media.

We've been told so often on GN not to trust the MSM, but now it is Gospel

''Open the border Macron.''

so you don't think other nations are not right to try to stop the spread of a mutant virus that our Government has been fully aware of since September, and have done nothing about?

Sovereignty and putting your citizens first- no?

[sigh]

Callistemon

I'm not arguing with those who know it all because they read the Guardian and watch someone being interviewed on ITV.

I will believe my own sources.

Blimey - talk about ignoring evidence.

BBC has interviewed multiple drivers in multiple places. They must all be liars

I think to resolve the argument perhaps ^callistemon could tell us where we could see the evidence for ourselves that the truck drivers have lavatories, hot food, hot drinks etc.

I have seen nothing but quite the opposite, including tv presenters on the ground saying that.

Are you saying it doesn’t matter if 1000 people are using fields as a toilet if 50 are in a hotel.

Here’s piece on it - www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/22/disgraceful-lorry-drivers-stuck-at-dover-tell-of-lack-of-facilities

Some of those quoted in that article were interviewed by the BBC - they keep being played on news 24 (amongst others)

I'm not arguing with those who know it all because they read the Guardian and watch someone being interviewed on ITV.

I will believe my own sources.

Callistemon - the lorry drivers being spoken to are there.

Yes
Have they interviewed them all?

Open the border Macron.