SIL ignoring 14 day reommended isolation rules

A dear friend lives in sheltered accommodation and has type 2, high blood pressure and cholesterol problems so is on medication. He is a lot fitter than some of the other residents.

My concern is that he I’d going shopping for others. He may carry the virus back, not to mention contracting it himself. I know he loves to help but he says there is no one else as most of the staff are working remotely.

What is the answer to this? I have suggested he is putting everyone in danger but he is deaf.....

Lilyjay

But would he then put the other people in the hotel at risk?

I read this morning that security and police have been called to some supermarkets. I made the suggestion on facebook that out of work nightclub bouncers need to enforce panic buying excesses. My OH has just gone out to get vulnerable mother in law a card for tomorrow.

Knittingnanna, I am utterly appalled by the disgusting behaviour of yourSlL....and by many others like him. When I protested to my sons, that maybe I could join the scrum at Sainsbury's hour for the elderly, they turned on me in no uncertain terms, swore in a manner I'd not heard from them before, and asked when people would realise that people are *** dying from this virus. They pointed out that in the supermarkets, we inevitably touch surfaces, shelves, freezer cabinet handles , the conveyor belt, etc. And friend of mine actually saw staff member sneeze onto her hand and then continue stacking shelves.
This selfish, ostrich-like, pig-ignorant, don't tell me what to do, insane behaviour of folk like Knittingnana's SIL, has to STOP.

knittingnana24 - your sil is unfortunately a 'spreader' - I know you won't want to do this but you should report him to both his employer (anonymously) just so that the employer is aware of the breach, and you should also report him to the police (again anonymously). This is going to be a thing of the future - the authorities will want tip offs and be quite happy to take them without your name - this is for the benefit of us all but first and foremost maybe, for your daughter and her family because they will definitely get this virus and as the WHO said yesterday, younger people are not invincible. It might seem like it to some of them now but even if they are asymptomatic there will likely be lung damage which shows itself in later years. Sorry you're in this awful position.

Just another perfect example of the utter selfishness of men. His wife needs to give him an ultimatum or report him and banish him from the home.

Hi everyone I’d be glad of your view as I’m unable to find “official” answer to this. I’m a healthy 65 yr old who normally provides childcare to my grandkids till parents arrive home. Absolutely want to continue same. But daughter is reluctant to let me visit. Anyone with the answer??

EVERYONE needs to practice social distancing. It is the only way we can protect ourselves from these selfish people. I am over 70 and one of the vulnerables. My husband is a key worker and we are living separate lives under the same roof. He is not even making me a cup of tea in case he puts something on the cup. There is a bowl of water and wrights coal tar soap and towel outside the back door and he washes before he comes in. Not enjoying any of this but we have to do it

Sorry that was my first time posting and thinking now I shouldn’t have added here but maybe started a fresh thread. I might be great at childcare but I’m rubbish with technology!

He is an idiot and you probably want to give him an ultimatum, either he self isolates or you will report him.

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Rowanflower0 - It ‘s perfectly OK to go out in the car as long as you don’t mingle with anyone else. In fact, it ‘s a way of going somewhere different and not going crazy stuck at home. As long as you stay in the car or go for a walk where there aren’t any other people, you’ll be fine.

Last week they interviewed a youngish chap who had just landed from a plane from Madrid, the interviewer asked him if he was going into Isolation , he replied that he was an Uber driver and he was going straight to work that aftrnoon , he travels to Spain every 2 weeks to see his girlfriend and he would be going back as soon as he could.
I wonder if anyone reported him?

Whilst I think your SIL is potentially a "super spreader" which isn't right, I wonder what sort of lorry driving he does. Without lorry drivers, there are no deliveries to the supermarkets, no replenishment of empty shelves, etc. He might feel that he is providing a vital service. My SIL would far prefer to be at home with his disabled, vulnerable wife and their children but as a delivery driver he feels he cannot stay at home. His wages are breadline as it is so any change in their benefits always causes them such hardship whilst they wait for the relevant people get their act together so he feels he is between a rock and a hard place.
You obviously know your SIL better than I but maybe his self centred aspect may be tempered with skewed kindness.

There’s nothing wrong with taking the Jag for a run, as long as he stays in it. Many people seem to think that they have to stay locked in their houses. As long as you stay clear of other people you can still go out. I had a lovely country walk yesterday, and a few long-distance chats with people I met. Keep exercising and stay healthy.

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My daughter is a doctor in a SW London hospital. She says people just aren't taking seriously the advice to self isolate or social distance and will not do so until their friends and relatives start dying because they can't get a ventilator.

Jillybird if you have any health problems then you should make him use
‘ other facilities’ either in your own home or move out into your ACs homes.
Explain to him , with pokes from a pointy stick, that he could pass the virus on to you and you could die.

If you are fit and well, spray him with dettol as soon as he walks back into the door, march him into the shower and make him scrub himself down, make him wash all his clothing and iron them all when it’s dry.
When he next goes out, make him buy you magazines, chocolate and wine, eat and drink it all yourself, and choose all your favourite programmes on the TV.
See how long it takes to break him!

Truck drivers are providing an essential service, however, if he passes the virus to other drivers then He is a menace and his Company should be told immediately.

Well he needs to at least be tested then?

It's about time Boris pulled his finger out and made his instructions enforceable rather that polite suggestions. If they keep on letting people choose whether to obey or not, those of us who are cooperating are going to end thinking why should I bother either then it really will be hard for the police to put a lid on it

Actually I think they are enforceable as someone did get arrested and fined, but it's not being made clear enough to everyone that they are actually breaking a law if they do it.

Dont think wrights coal tar soap will do as good a job as Dettol bar soap orr dettol pump antibac soap as it kills viruses too.(tip for everone)

Yep a man thing. My husband has gone off to his club to meet up with friends. I said he should keep his distance. His reply "it's not as if we hug each other".

Yes GrannynananyW (names too long)STAY HOME THEN?

I think the government are very naive about people being responsible. Obviously a lot are but it only takes a few irresponsible ones to enable this virus to keep spreading.

I think all returnees from Europe should be confined, as happened with those off the cruise ship in Japan. The cost would be a drop in the ocean compared to what is being spent on wages etc. In fact I am astonished that Italians and Spanish people are being allowed to return and just walk straight back into everyday life.

I find disposal rubber gloves useful - I have to go into the office once a week fora few hours and have been provided with gloves and a tub of sanitiser wipes - I dispose of the gloves on the way out and replace them with my driving gloves. When I get back in the house I take those off and wash my hands.

At the moment the number of deaths worldwide - 10,000 - is small compared to those resulting from the ‘flu’ in 68 (1 million deaths) and the Asian (started in China) 56-58 ‘flu’ (2 million deaths) let alone HIV or the 1918 Pandemic - at least 20 million deaths from a much smaller world population.