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Sadgrandma Thu 02-Jul-26 10:05:57

So is football more important than schooling?

rafichagran Thu 02-Jul-26 18:43:28

merlotgran

I’m not a moaner. I’m enjoying the World Cup and I like a 🍷. I was just pointing out that not all children have loving and caring parents.
Pubs are now going to be allowed to stay open all night.
It’s not even the final.
🤷‍♀️

I agree with you, but these children should be on the radar of some organisation.
Should the Schools not have holidays in that case? The majority of people are decent, they love football, and have every right to decide if their children once every four years watch the match.
What suggestion would you make?
I think people choose to look for things that happen to a very sad minority of children to stop the majority enjoying themselves. We cannot be responsible for all the bad things that happen in the world.

Jaxjacky Thu 02-Jul-26 18:35:59

It’s one day, or morning, im ok with it.

Grandma70s Thu 02-Jul-26 18:18:48

It seems very strange to me. It gives the impression that football is important, which it really isn’t. (I know some will disagree with that.)

I really don’t think schools should give that impression.

SueDonim Thu 02-Jul-26 18:13:59

25Avalon

It’s cruel to children to let them stay up and see England beaten by Mexico😂

Character-forming! grin

eazybee Thu 02-Jul-26 18:09:13

This is coming at a time when more and more children are Truanting, which is the correct term for School Refusal, and this idiocy about young children watching a football match in the middle of the night and possibly needing time off to recover explains why it is happening.
Lack of parental control.
Schools make a point of working for the last weeks of a school term, preparing for the next term or year, despite parents saying they do not do anything, just watch videos etc.
I can assure you any decent school does not behave like this.

merlotgran Thu 02-Jul-26 18:08:54

I’m not a moaner. I’m enjoying the World Cup and I like a 🍷. I was just pointing out that not all children have loving and caring parents.
Pubs are now going to be allowed to stay open all night.
It’s not even the final.
🤷‍♀️

rafichagran Thu 02-Jul-26 17:05:54

LaCrepescule

For goodness sake, lighten up a little OP…

Yes, it's the world Cup it comes every four years. Honestly I am getting sick of some of the moaners on here.
Millions if people enjoy the world Cup, my partner and I included. I may or may not stay up, my choice. Let the parents make theirs.

Wheniwasyourage Thu 02-Jul-26 16:48:32

It's not a big deal if they are tired next day - it's one day! The ones who are keen on football will remember it for the rest of their lives, whatever the result. If England do well, they will be watching other games too, and never mind what time they take place. A lot of adults are going to be tired at work, and also when driving, which is much more serious.

Our DGCs have been watching the Scotland games, and why not? Not that they were going to win the World Cup, but that doesn't stop the enthusiasm!

valdali Thu 02-Jul-26 14:49:33

Our very strait-laced Grammar school let us watch Virginia Wade when she won Wimbledon in 1977. Or it might have been just the 6th form. Anyway,it was such a novelty, we didn't think our teachers knew how to work a TV, they were so old-fashioned.

Cressida Thu 02-Jul-26 14:42:55

One of my vivid grammar school memories is the whole school listening to Norwich City play an afternoon match during their FA cup run. I had to Google the year - it was 1959!!

greyfur Thu 02-Jul-26 14:30:10

I'm not convinced there is a huge amount of learning going on in July.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 02-Jul-26 14:28:12

Yes, parents know their children.

I am cross with myself for making a case for my GC watching the game, it is down to our AC, and nobody else’s business 😡

MartavTaurus Thu 02-Jul-26 14:26:24

Doodledog

My son was five in 1996 when England was in the final of the Euros. He was too young to fully understand what was going on, but happened to have got up to use the bathroom when the penalty kicks were happening, so I called him downstairs to watch.

He mentioned it at school the next day, and the Head told me off! I was so cross, as it was my decision, my child and absolutely nothing to do with her. I really do think that teachers can overstep the mark at times. They are there to teach children when they are in school, and yes, to look out for signs of abuse or neglect, but they are not there to tell parents how to bring up their own children.

I am not a football fan, but my son is, and he still remembers that evening.

100% agree.
The decision should be that of the parents who, in general make the right call for their own children.

Doodledog Thu 02-Jul-26 14:10:16

My son was five in 1996 when England was in the final of the Euros. He was too young to fully understand what was going on, but happened to have got up to use the bathroom when the penalty kicks were happening, so I called him downstairs to watch.

He mentioned it at school the next day, and the Head told me off! I was so cross, as it was my decision, my child and absolutely nothing to do with her. I really do think that teachers can overstep the mark at times. They are there to teach children when they are in school, and yes, to look out for signs of abuse or neglect, but they are not there to tell parents how to bring up their own children.

I am not a football fan, but my son is, and he still remembers that evening.

Fallingstar Thu 02-Jul-26 14:04:52

Nothing wrong with children staying up as long as they will enjoy watching the game, I doubt smaller children will have the attention span and parents will want them in bed anyway.
Is summer and something to celebrate even if England don’t win, they’ve made it so far.

25Avalon Thu 02-Jul-26 13:55:29

It’s cruel to children to let them stay up and see England beaten by Mexico😂

Galaxy Thu 02-Jul-26 13:48:18

Even the secondary school it is work experience this week and activities week the last week.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 02-Jul-26 13:44:32

MaizieD

GrannyGravy13

The Primary schools near me have said the children can go in later on Monday Morning if they want to watch the football.

It’s the end of term/school year, and basically Funtime, no exams etc…

Good Lord, GG13. End of term? hmm

Our local state schools have at least 2 weeks to go until the end of term. I'd expect the children to work up until the penultimate day. Apart from Y6 who have done all the hard work earlier and are about to leave primary.

We have a yr.6 who is football mad, plays for the school and another team, he will definitely be watching the match. His yr1 sibling has said he wants to, so the plan is to say we woke you up but you went back to sleep

This school has two more weeks left, three school productions (yrs 1 & 2, 3 & 4 and 5 & 6) four performances of each, school trips, picnics on the field, visiting interest days explorers, music workshops.

Yes, I know they learn through these, but going in later on Monday is not the end of the world education wise 🤦‍♀️

MaizieD Thu 02-Jul-26 13:37:56

GrannyGravy13

The Primary schools near me have said the children can go in later on Monday Morning if they want to watch the football.

It’s the end of term/school year, and basically Funtime, no exams etc…

Good Lord, GG13. End of term? hmm

Our local state schools have at least 2 weeks to go until the end of term. I'd expect the children to work up until the penultimate day. Apart from Y6 who have done all the hard work earlier and are about to leave primary.

ViceVersa Thu 02-Jul-26 12:54:49

My GS was allowed to stay up for the Scotland games and still went to school (although our schools have broken up for the holidays now). I think some schools have been using the World Cup as a teaching opportunity too - I know my GS has been absolutely fascinated by all the different countries taking part, their countries, capitals and so on. I'm amazed at how much he knows about the different teams and players.

SueDonim Thu 02-Jul-26 12:46:53

I didn’t participate myself (I’m not sure why, now) but many children stayed up overnight in 1969 to watch the first men land on the moon.

I’m not a football fan but I recognise that occasions such as the WC can encourage community in society and allowances could be made. No one is saying schools need to be shut that day so children for whom school is a safe space can still attend.

Sadgrandma Thu 02-Jul-26 12:40:46

Ouch! I was being a bit lighthearted

Visgir1 Thu 02-Jul-26 12:29:43

Depends on the School? Tomorrow my GS has an inset day, so he is off. I don't know perhaps some schools might have Mondays off ? Or schools happy for them to arrive in late?

If the Children can stay awake let them see it.

Norah Thu 02-Jul-26 12:13:02

Sadgrandma

So is football more important than schooling?

No, but this is a one off.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 02-Jul-26 11:58:22

merlotgran

It’s important to remember that for some children school is their safe place.
Having to stay home with hungover or still drunk parents who will be angry and resentful if England lose will be a nightmare for vulnerable children.

Please don’t tell me to lighten up. I’m not pouring water on anyone’s fun but it’s a genuine issue.

Yes it is a problem, unfortunately there are school holidays when vulnerable children haven’t got school.

One morning is minuscule compared to 175 days a year they are at home…