Tuchel urges parents to let kids stay up for England game

GrannyGravy13

Most of the England players came from humble/poor backgrounds.

Football gives children chances, confidence and enjoyment.

Schools have been using the World Cup as a learning tool

With so much despair and growing wars, it’s great to see this as a coming together of young and old.

Indeed, as I pointed out, my GS has been learning about all the different countries taking part. He's outside in the garden playing football right now, before watching tonight's match. Anything which encourages children to get out and play has to be a good thing, surely?

LBC this afternoon surprised me by having an otherwise "fairly strict" headteacher on talking about this. I want to say it was Christopher McCormack, of Cranford College

Anyway he argued that forcing kids into rigid compliance over an exceptional, massive cultural moment like a World Cup knockout game misses the bigger picture of what a school community should be.

He was asked if he'd be giving out fines and said that instead of threatening punishments for being late, he advocated for flexibility. He said he was expecting sleepy children but that sharing these historic moments with friends and family creates social bonding that is just as vital to a young person's growth and development as an extra hour in the classroom -especially this time of year.

i would send a note in on friday to say my child will be off on monday morning.....well i would if my son was still young and it was scotland playing, it is only 1 game and every 4 years, plenty of adults will be throwing a sick day on monday.

The hungover or still drunk parent who will be angry and resentful if England lose will be the same parent who will be angry if England win.

Domestic Abuse will spike either way.
Sadly, Merlotgran.

That child is going to suffer either way.

...just so long (in the event that England win the match) as the children don't go to school next morning still reeking of the fizzy lager that their parents sprayed all over the living room ceiling at the winning goal/final whistle. That would appear to be the a la mode expression of celebration amongst football fans these days. Bring back clapping and calls of "Good shot Kane" or "Well played, chaps"" I say.
Full disclosure: I shall be delighted when both the World Cup and Wimbledon finally come to their respective over-hyped conclusions, and the whole media frenzy finally subsides. Bah! Humbug!

Nobody I know would waste beer in such a manner Bodach are you confused with the Winbledon/Henley crowd and champagne?

Jaxjacky

Nobody I know would waste beer in such a manner Bodach are you confused with the Winbledon/Henley crowd and champagne?

I am as one with you, Jaxjacky, in abhorring such an egregious waste of the Amber Nectar - but on the matter of observing the current generation of football fans' celebratory rites, may respectfully suggest that you get out more? TV coverage of every England goal I have been forced to watch (Impossible to avoid, as three quarters of every news bulletin is crammed with the *!! World Cup) quickly switches to the obligatory outside broadcast replay from some pub/social club/car park, where the assembled punters leap to their feet and fling their plastic tumblers-full skywards in a paroxysm of communal ecstasy. As to wasting champagne in a similar manner; I hold that in equal contempt. I blame Formula One...(another sport I don't watch).

We must be more parsimonious in our local!

Bodach

Jaxjacky

Nobody I know would waste beer in such a manner Bodach are you confused with the Winbledon/Henley crowd and champagne?

I am as one with you, Jaxjacky, in abhorring such an egregious waste of the Amber Nectar - but on the matter of observing the current generation of football fans' celebratory rites, may respectfully suggest that you get out more? TV coverage of every England goal I have been forced to watch (Impossible to avoid, as three quarters of every news bulletin is crammed with the *!! World Cup) quickly switches to the obligatory outside broadcast replay from some pub/social club/car park, where the assembled punters leap to their feet and fling their plastic tumblers-full skywards in a paroxysm of communal ecstasy. As to wasting champagne in a similar manner; I hold that in equal contempt. I blame Formula One...(another sport I don't watch).

Do they actually use champagne or is it fizzy water? I always think how horrible and sticky it must make everything …

The kids could go to bed at a normal time but get up early at say 6 a.m and watch the recorded match while they eat breakfast.Then go to school.

Oreo

The kids could go to bed at a normal time but get up early at say 6 a.m and watch the recorded match while they eat breakfast.Then go to school.

Not the same though, is it 🤷‍♀️

Well, better to be disappointed in the result having had a good night sleep?
Playing football at altitude makes sure the home team always wins.
It’s ridiculous to allow Mexico to choose that venue.

They’ll stay up if the parents allow it. I’d probably have sent mine to bed early then let them get up to watch, and I’m not a football fan.

With pubs being permitted to stay open all night for the football, I feel so sorry for those who are unfortunate enough to live near one, especially the many thousands of folk who have absolutely no interest whatsoever in football.

Yes you could argue that those who bought a house despite its proximity to a pub can’t be too bothered by noise, but honestly, a din going on all night?
What a nightmare, especially for those who don’t have the luxury of going in to work later on the Monday.

And, it’s not even the final !

It’s one night - let’s give people/parents responsibility for deciding what their plan for the England-Mexico game will be.

The problem isn’t football - it’s excessive drinking that fuels domestic abuse. That’s an issue that men need to address and not just on big football occasions
Come on England

Iam64

It’s one night - let’s give people/parents responsibility for deciding what their plan for the England-Mexico game will be.

The problem isn’t football - it’s excessive drinking that fuels domestic abuse. That’s an issue that men need to address and not just on big football occasions
Come on England

Exactly Iam64 blaming football or any big sporting event for domestic violence is tantamount to giving these abusive men an excuse for their despicable behaviour.

I feel sorry for parents who are at work on Monday morning so their kids will have to go to bed on time and go to school on time ( my son and daughter fit that category) and will have very disgruntled children. And the number of people who will be driving around over the limit that morning, too. Would understand if it was the final but can’t help but feel they’re making a lot of fuss about a knockout game that we’ll probably lose anyway ( I’m not taken with our performance so far).

It’s one night - let’s give people/parents responsibility for deciding what their plan for the England-Mexico game will be.

Exactly.
Parents had full time responsibility for their children during Covid lockdowns and schools are seeing and trying to repair the damage caused by their lack of control.
I hope every child who misses school on Monday is marked as Unauthorised Absence, in ink, so no crafty altering of Registers to escape Ofsted scrutiny.
But even then it is the school who gets held to account, not their irresponsible parents.

eazybee

^It’s one night - let’s give people/parents responsibility for deciding what their plan for the England-Mexico game will be.^

Exactly.
Parents had full time responsibility for their children during Covid lockdowns and schools are seeing and trying to repair the damage caused by their lack of control.
I hope every child who misses school on Monday is marked as Unauthorised Absence, in ink, so no crafty altering of Registers to escape Ofsted scrutiny.
But even then it is the school who gets held to account, not their irresponsible parents.

Well, the simple answer to that is to come into school after break at 11 am. That way it doesn't count as an absence.

I spent years as a Headteacher making compromises like that and being tolerant. It doesn't happen that often, the children will cope and such gestures show how to work together with parents successfully. Also staff will be at school on time to teach those who didn't get a disturbed night watching the match. Win, win.

I don’t think the schools should be penalised if children come in late. And think, if they win, they could all watch the game together on catchup in a special assembly so they can get the thrill of being in a crowd watching it ( when we won the World Cup I was on holiday and watched it in a club house; great memory). I guess I’m just a grump as I don’t drink and don’t understand drinking pub culture stuff.

I hope I didn't imply that domestic abuse was only football related?

That wasn't my intention.

NotSpaghetti

I hope I didn't imply that domestic abuse was only football related?

That wasn't my intention.

I didn’t think that…

It doesn't follow that everyone who watches football has to drink their own bodyweight in lager!
Fizzy lager, at that.
Honestly....

It’s all very well saying they can go into school later or miss a day. But, a great many parents work these days so no opportunity for a lie in

Thats part of the joys of being an adult.