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From sinner to saint, quite a transformation.

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M0nica Sun 28-Jun-26 09:18:46

What a nasty lot of responses. Yes, of course, people can behave really badly and realise later what they were and change.

Isn't the whole story of St Pauls conversion on the road to Damascus, just such a story? he was persecuting christians , had his conversion moment, and went on to lead them and die for his religion.

Being educated and articulate didn't stop Jonathan Aitken going to prison and serving time. I think that experience was his road to Damascus. He may well have faced up to what he did to his daughter and shown his sorrow and rebuilt his relationship with her. Since then he has tried to live a good life. Why shouldn't he.

Grandmaofone Sun 28-Jun-26 09:04:28

“he broke my poor Carol’s heart”

Tuliptree Sun 28-Jun-26 09:04:26

Well it’s definitely easier if you’re well connected. If you’re educated and articulate it’s easier to convince people as well. I thought it was unforgivable how he got his young daughters to lie for him.

fancythat Sun 28-Jun-26 09:04:08

You can most certainly go from sinner to saved.

I dont call anyone a saint.
That is for Jesus to decide.

Luckygirl3 Sun 28-Jun-26 09:01:10

Is an Anglican priest a saint? ... not the ones I have known!

Sago Sun 28-Jun-26 08:59:22

I have just read a fascinating article (paywalled sorry) on Johnathon Aitken.

I had forgotten some of the details regarding his trial and imprisonment.

I do however remember his arrogance and barefaced lies.

He is now an ordained Anglican priest and prison chaplain.

His philosophy is “hate the sin love the sinner”
Based on this he has supported Charlie Elphicke and Jeffrey Donaldson and offered to support AMW, I’m sure there will be many celebrities queuing for his support!

At the time of his trial I truly thought he was despicable yet by the end of the article I felt he was sincere.

Do you believe you can go from sinner to saint?