A famous matador gored by bull!

Good.

Allira

I think it's one thing not feeling sympathy and quite another to be relishing in his injuries.

Don’t spoil their enjoyment. They’d probably have been knitting . . .

Purplepixie

No sympathy! I hope he died a painful death! Poor animals should not be subjected to this in the name of entertainment.

What a bloody wicked thing to say. Bull fighting is abhorant, but what you have posted is as bad.

There is nothing new in this. Bull fighting often results in a bull-fighter being killed by the bull.

But before you get carried away with cruelty to animals on this topic: in what way is a slaughter-house kinder?

Horses and Grand National come o mind.

They don't like it up 'em Captain Mainwaring

HobbyCat

rafichagran

I have just read about the matador injuries they made me shudder.
The injury is anal and he was given operation right away. He is still in a serious position. This is why I feel people saying good is revolting. This man's life will be changed forever. The psin will be severe.

It’s his own fault for choosing a career based on abject brutality. No sympathy whatsoever.

I think it's one thing not feeling sympathy and quite another to be relishing in his injuries.

rafichagran

I have just read about the matador injuries they made me shudder.
The injury is anal and he was given operation right away. He is still in a serious position. This is why I feel people saying good is revolting. This man's life will be changed forever. The psin will be severe.

It’s his own fault for choosing a career based on abject brutality. No sympathy whatsoever.

Much as I dislike bullfighting I do think there should be some sympathy for someone who has obviously been badly injured.

OK so a lot of people disagree with bull fights, me amongst them, but I also don't take any pleasure in the fact that a person has been gored by a bull and find some of the comments above abhorrent.

Good, hope it hurt (a lot)

Stick with the don't want anyone to suffer.
Otherwise you’re implying that you approve of his suffering.

Grandma70s

I don’t want anyone to suffer, but I can’t help thinking there’s a sort of poetic justice in this.

The bull was killed afterwards, though.

So not a happy ending for him either.

I don’t want anyone to suffer, but I can’t help thinking there’s a sort of poetic justice in this.

I don't think he died, purplepixie.
The one who died was a "rising star" I believe.

No sympathy! I hope he died a painful death! Poor animals should not be subjected to this in the name of entertainment.

Good. It beggars believe that people pay to go and see an animal tortured to death. So much evil in this world.

We know the matador knew the risks, so does a mountain climber, sky diver, or racing driver.

You're comparing apples with oranges with this argument. Firstly,a mountain climber, sky diver or racing driver puts only himself at risk; he has a support team to assist him achieve his goal but ultimately, he's solely responsible for his safety.
Secondly, the support team members have the capacity to refuse to be a part of that extreme sport; they have the ability to walk away, at any stage, if they feel that anyone's safety is being compromised or that someone stands an above average chance of being hurt or injured.

The bull has none of these options. It doesn't have capacity to agree or disagree to be baited to a rage and then stabbed. I'm as sure as I can be that, if it did have that capacity, it would tell you to sod off. The bull has been conscripted; whether willing or not and therefore reacts in the only way it knows: to kill. The matador knows all of this (because he's the intelligent one) and decides to take the risk anyway. On this occasion, it's matador 0. Bull 1.

Rosie51

Basgetti yes we know the matador knew the risks, so does a mountain climber, sky diver, or racing driver. I recognise none of those involve animal cruelty but would you dismiss serious injury or death to any of them with "they knew the risks"? If not why not? Does the animal cruelty aspect absolve everyone of common human decency?

Who’s celebrating? I’m not.

Maybe Smileless but the posters who said good did.

I haven't wished him ill rafichagran, I have no sympathy; there's a difference.

I cannot believe what posters are saying about the matador. He has horrific injuries.
You can disagree as I do with bull fighting but not wish ill on others. Absolutly disgusting. I don't know how your minds work to wish ill. Horrible.

Better than what Allira? It doesn't take much IMO to be better than anyone who enjoys seeing a bull physically tormented and tortured before it's eventually killed. Or to be better than the person who does so for a living.

Bull fighting is a misnomer. It isn't a fight, it's the protracted torture and eventual slaughter of a bull.

Again, in none of those scenarios was anyone actively torturing an animal. That's the difference with bullfighting - and no, I make no apologies for not having a shred of sympathy for anyone being cruel to an animal. If that makes me sick in the eyes of some people, then so be it - I couldn't care less. I've been actively campaigning against bullfighting since I was a child.

Allira

I agree, Doodledog
Surely we are better than this?

I agree, but sadly, some aren’t.
Some would probably have the same reaction and might even have told the 12 year old who fell off her horse and broke her spine- that she knew the risk. The horse had no choice.

Or the people who were injured when the police horses tossed their riders and ran loose. Serves them right for getting in the way. The horses had no choice.

I’d certainly not ask for sympathy after being knocked over by an over friendly Labrador and damaging my knee - obviously my fault for being on the field. The dog had no choice.

I don’t agree with bull fighting, but celebrating or getting enjoyment from an animal’s pain, whether the animal is human or not is sick.