Oops! The Prince formerly known as Duke drops another clanger!

When I posted 'done and dusted' Iam I was referring to the on going drip feeding of claims and allegations against PA. Had the case gone to court everything would have been out in the open. IMO it's a shame for all concerned that this never happened.

Casdon

ronib

Casdon The National Trafficking Helpline is run by Polaris. So what do you think SOAR does?

It would be good if you would admit when you make incorrect assumptions ronib. You said SOAR wasn’t operational. It is. The link I provided tells you what they do, you don’t need to move on to something else to try to smokescreen that you were wrong.

Banging head against wall emoji needed, Casdon.

My head is being banged quite unnecessarily. Do check out the links Allira coming soon…. Coming soon since when? 2021? Says it all!

Smiles less, I was responding because here and in other countries the successful prosecution of alleged sex offenders often conclude NG . Often because of a technicallity or because the jury is instructed that in the absence of corroborative evidence, NG it will be.

PA hasn’t been investigated, hasn’t cooperated with US attempts to investigate. FWIW I do t see how PA could be prosecuted. His accuser is dead.

Smileless2012

You've just posted something that has no basis in fact NoFrill.
Charles hasn't and couldn't instruct parliament even if he wanted too.

He's said he doesn't want parliament to spend time on this issue but if they choose to do so, they will.

See how easily claims and allegations can be written as fact.

Apologies, possibly accidental - although l occasionally elaborate purposefully to see if anyone reads the post 😘

Well at least you know I read it OldFrill .

BBC reports this evening that Epstein, Maxwell and Harvey Weinstein attended Royal Lodge for Beatrice’s 18th birthday celebrations. The event was 2 months after a US arrest warrant had been issued for Epstein for the sexual assault of a minor.

Prince Andrew hosted Epstein, Maxwell and Weinstein at Royal Lodge www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g7d39n6vgo

Casdon

It is ronib.
www.speakoutactreclaim.org/about-us

I think ronib is correct.
Speak Out, Act, Reclaim (SOAR) doesn't seem to have filed even a board of directors - it has carried over
​Virginia Roberts Giuffre (Founder)
​Dini von Mueffling (Public Relations professional and advocate)
from the previous charity which also only ever did "postcard" filings.

To know more you need to see official Form 990. As it was incorporated in 2015 you would expect to be able to see these but I can't find them.

If the organization received the "substantial donation" mentioned in the Prince Andrew settlement so that its revenue increased significantly after the 2021 relaunch, it would be required to file a full Form 990 or 990-EZ for that fiscal year. That document would then be released by the IRS and become publicly accessible.
Otherwise it has always had less than $50,000.

I don't know if it really is functioning.

Obviously it may be... I can't say.

NotSpaghetti

Obviously it may be... I can't say.

I’ve done a bit more digging this morning. It is operational in the sense that it has an online presence, it has dedicated pages on social media sites, Facebook etc. I didn’t join the sites, so I don’t know whether there is recent posting though. My guess is that the intent was there, people can contact them and will get a response, but that she wasn’t very active in recent times - maybe because her personal life was so chaotic.

Those of us who said there was more to come were right. You couldn’t make it up.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g7d39n6vgo

This is old news about Princess Beatrice’s 18th party. It’s beginning to look as if Prince Andrew didn’t have very effective or sound advisors if he was unaware of the charges facing Epstein at that time.

‘It had previously been reported that Epstein, Maxwell and Weinstein visited Windsor Castle for the event, but not that they had been hosted at Andrew's private home.’
From the BBC article.

Given that Fergie already owns at least one property (multi million £££ Mayfair mews house ) why does she get a family house as part of the deal?

ronib

This is old news about Princess Beatrice’s 18th party. It’s beginning to look as if Prince Andrew didn’t have very effective or sound advisors if he was unaware of the charges facing Epstein at that time.

You can’t always blame the staff.

Advisers advise, their principal (ie boss) makes the decisions. .

How do you know that Prince Andrew was advised? RosieandherMaw

RosieandherMaw

Given that Fergie already owns at least one property (multi million £££ Mayfair mews house ) why does she get a family house as part of the deal?

Fergie sold a house in Belgravia for £3.8 million in September.
Is this the same house that her daughters helped her buy and had a controlling interest?
What has happened to the money? 🤔🤔

ronib

How do you know that Prince Andrew was advised? RosieandherMaw

How do you know he wasn’t 🌞
We now have email exchanges between Epstein and friends before and after conviction. His friends appeared unconcerned that he was a sex offender
The actions of Andrew and Sarah after Epstein was released from prison confirm total disregard

Casdon I was aware of the online presence - but still no info about anything working - or the tax submissions.

It is really irrelevant to me but I can't find any evidence of anything other than intent which I assume was genuine... and no evidence of the large sum discussed (from the pay out).

I am currently on antibiotics feeling awful and I don't think my brain is fully operational so forgive me if this is a stupid question. Does the stuff about SOAR and contributions means that the substantial contribution from the £12million come to $50k? Surely that is shocking or am I missing something.

I think I must be missing something too theworriedwell but no doubt someone will come and put us right.

Sorry you're not well. Antibiotics can make you feel awful; hope you feel better soon .

Smileless2012

I think I must be missing something too theworriedwell but no doubt someone will come and put us right.

Sorry you're not well. Antibiotics can make you feel awful; hope you feel better soon .

Thank you. Since I had COVID in 2022 the slightest cold ends up in a chest infection sometimes pneumonia. It's really taking a toll. Spending time with my youngest grandchildren is becoming dangerous, they are such little germ factories and bring all sorts home from nursery. I'm not going to miss out on time with them, that's too much.

Get well worried well. Covid is far from a cold x

Iam64

Smiles less, I was responding because here and in other countries the successful prosecution of alleged sex offenders often conclude NG . Often because of a technicallity or because the jury is instructed that in the absence of corroborative evidence, NG it will be.

PA hasn’t been investigated, hasn’t cooperated with US attempts to investigate. FWIW I do t see how PA could be prosecuted. His accuser is dead.

Ghislaine Maxwell is far from dead, knows everything, and I would be entirely unsurprised if she trades what she knows for a reduction in her 20 year sentence.

Or, if she's found dead in her cell.

merlotgran

RosieandherMaw

Given that Fergie already owns at least one property (multi million £££ Mayfair mews house ) why does she get a family house as part of the deal?

Fergie sold a house in Belgravia for £3.8 million in September.
Is this the same house that her daughters helped her buy and had a controlling interest?
What has happened to the money? 🤔🤔

I really feel for King Charles. I daresay he still doesn't feel 100% after his cancer treatment but still has continuing problems with Andrew and Fergie.
I fail to see why he has to house his brother's ex-wife when she has had copious amounts of money during her marriage. She is holding out for Adelaide Cottage according to her friends. I suppose she is, Loves a freebie does Fergie. She has been an utter embarrassment to the Royal Family with her behaviour and is devoid of any scruples in who she begs money from. Perhaps one of her girls might sort her out a granny flat.