RIP Liam Payne

These reality tv shows appear to have such a negative impact on some of their contestants if you forget the financial gain to some of them.

Poor Liam and his family

RIP Liam,taken too soon. So sorry for his son and family.

It is so very sad that this young man has died, and that a career in the pop/rock music world seems to carry with it the pit of drink and drugs.
I have a teenage GS with a quite extraordinary talent as a rock/jazz/folk guitarist. People are blown away by his skill. I watch him play and can't help worrying about him. It would be madness for him not to pursue this, but I know the pitfalls in that route. Such a shame.

His mum has said 'he was just a boy'; the saddest tribute of all.

The old enemy drink and drugs …and why… for what ?
So so sad and gained nothing but heartbreak and sadness for his family and friends, he’s not here to see the aftermath he and his troubles if he had any are gone if it was for excitement thrill or habit no one will ever know but no one involved with him will ever be the same again and that’s thoughtless and selfish

Such a sad story. The relentless "celebratising" of young people, be they reality stars, pop stars, sports stars is a poisoned chalice.

Those who are supposed to be supporting them - mentoring them - are not in it for altruistic reasons. The more money the "star" makes the more money they make.

It's like putting a 17 year old who has just passed their driving test into a F1 racing car and telling them the M25 is their oyster.

Another young life lost to fame and fortune

BlueBelle

The old enemy drink and drugs …and why… for what ?
So so sad and gained nothing but heartbreak and sadness for his family and friends, he’s not here to see the aftermath he and his troubles if he had any are gone if it was for excitement thrill or habit no one will ever know but no one involved with him will ever be the same again and that’s thoughtless and selfish

What a stupid thing to say. Drink and drugs is not the cause of this, it is whatever mental health issues led him to "self medicate" with drink and drugs. You can no more call him selfish than someone who has killed themself by any other means. Dreadful

muffler

BlueBelle

The old enemy drink and drugs …and why… for what ?
So so sad and gained nothing but heartbreak and sadness for his family and friends, he’s not here to see the aftermath he and his troubles if he had any are gone if it was for excitement thrill or habit no one will ever know but no one involved with him will ever be the same again and that’s thoughtless and selfish

What a stupid thing to say. Drink and drugs is not the cause of this, it is whatever mental health issues led him to "self medicate" with drink and drugs. You can no more call him selfish than someone who has killed themself by any other means. Dreadful

I’m sorry, but drink and drugs and “too much too soon” are precisely at the bottom of this.
He was high on drugs when the accident happened and the emergency services had already been called because of the disturbance his behaviour was causing.
It doesn’t mitigate the loss to his family or make it less sad, but too many young flames have burned out too soon - Amy Winehouse,Paula Yates even James Dean, Marilyn Monroe and they had much in common.

BlueBelle. Who knows what was going on in the poor chap's mind. I know from personal experience how mental illness can change the way you think, whatever the cause. My own brother took his own life in his 20s. It was devastating for us but I don't consider him selfish or thoughtless. He was in turmoil. Walk a mile in someone else's shoes.

I agree ferry23. Early celebratising, easily available drugs often pushed onto them, little care from the people who should be caring, but are just profiting. So very sad for his family and friends. And for him. Any death of a young person is tragic for whatever reason.

I think Rick Ashley had a point when he remarked that young people who suddenly become rich and famous need mentoring to help them come to terms with what wealth and fame means in terms of their mental health.

Years ago, RA suffered with mental health issues, so he knows what he’s talking about.

Liam Payne’s death is surely a case in point.

Rick Astley….

And a little 7 year old has no daddy today. Tragic. 😢

Sincere sympathy Kate
This however is something different.
Mental illness covers a huge spectrum and drug use/abuse especially by the young is more often a cause of mental illness than a result.
Combine a celebrity lifestyle, easy access to drink and drugs, more money than they have ever had before, a sycophantic and adoring following, a “party, party” mentality, the isolation of being in the limelight and it becomes a toxic mix in which any moral compass is quickly lost.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

And a little 7 year old has no daddy today. Tragic. 😢

Oh with all respect- how many 7 year olds have no daddy because he been killed in Gaza, drowned in the channel, murdered by some knife wielding teenager or some idiot driving the wrong way down(up) the M6.
That is tragedy.

I thought that yesterday. It is tragic about Liam but I wonder how many young men of a similar age lost their lives on the same day for whatever reason.

However a child loses a father and regardless of how their death occurred, it's always a tragedy.

I don’t think it’s a competition. All orphaned children will be equally bereft - for whatever reason.

The death of a father is certainly tragic.
However, if it is caused by a physical illness or an accident, maybe it is easier to come to terms with. I don't think a father taking his own life is necessarily selfish, but in my experience, to use one of Bluebelle's words, it is thoughtless. But I guess thoughts don't enter into it at that moment.

R.I.P. Liam Payne

Extremely sad for the ones he leaves behind - but handling fame and the destruction it will always cause to those stars who simply loose their way and aren't equipped to handle the good & bad it brings it will always happen - Sadly its nothing New.....

Whatever reason, it is very sad. He was a talented singer.

RIP Liam Payne

It hasn't been established that Liam took his own life.

I hope this is no too close to home for those who may have lost someone to suicide but as a Sam I learned that consideration for others is absolutely the last thing on a persons mind when they take that final step. . In fact they often show signs of an upturn in mood, maybe relief because their burden is lifting.
One thing is for certain, we cannot get inside that mind and any feelings of guilt that signs should have been spotted,
entirely unnecessary.

I think for what it is worth that this was a tragic accident while under the influence of whatever substance.

That's it exactly Maw. We tried to help our brother but had no idea how to or to what extent he was suffering. I have since suffered with my mental health and now have an idea of what he was going through. He wouldn't have done it if he felt he could take any more. Unfortunately his anguish and f