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fancythat Fri 12-Apr-24 12:21:08

There should be a weather forum on this site!

There are about 13 lines in the skies above us today. Never seen so many. Some are very thick.

I am not sure what to believe about them.
Are they just a weather phenomenon?

It is the best day we have had here for a while[I always say on this forum we live "down South"].

Callistemon21 Thu 18-Apr-24 17:05:20

MissAdventure

Chemtrail is an actual word, just the same as contrail.

It depends what is thought to cause the trail.
Chemicals or condensation.

Well, it was an alien spacecraft.
I saw it.

Wheniwasyourage Thu 18-Apr-24 12:51:48

Sago

Interesting article in today’s telegraph re cloud seeding.
Apparently they went too far in UAE.

No, that is very unlikely. Cloud seeding is done by adding small particles of salts (eg silver iodide) to clouds which are not about to cause precipitation, so that water condenses on the particles and can form droplets big enough to fall. It has been used for some time in areas where there is not enough water in an attempt to get the water which is available in clouds to fall where it is wanted.

The rain which was so heavy in the UAE was from clouds which were already full of water in a condition to fall, so there would have been no point in seeding them. Climate change causes the air to become warmer, and the warmer the air, the more water it can hold, so that when it does fall as rain, there is more of it. We have the same thing happening here, as rain showers are likely to be more intense than they were.

There is an interesting Explainer article about it in the Guardian, from which I got some of this.

prestbury Thu 18-Apr-24 12:18:49

A handy present for all the conspiracy theorists, will give many hours of fun.

MissAdventure Thu 18-Apr-24 10:57:54

Chemtrail is an actual word, just the same as contrail.

It depends what is thought to cause the trail.
Chemicals or condensation.

Callistemon21 Thu 18-Apr-24 10:54:28

Sago

Interesting article in today’s telegraph re cloud seeding.
Apparently they went too far in UAE.

Oh dear!

I wondered whether they'd been trying out cloud seeding to green the desert.

Callistemon21 Thu 18-Apr-24 10:53:23

Magrithea

I'm sure it's already been said but it's CONtrails and they're caused by condensation - something to do with the plane passing through the air and NOTHING nefarious!

Are you quite sure?? 😯

I saw several this morning and one of them had a very suspicious-looking UFO just in front of it; it was bright and silvery.
I dived back under the bed clothes.

Magrithea Thu 18-Apr-24 10:47:35

I'm sure it's already been said but it's CONtrails and they're caused by condensation - something to do with the plane passing through the air and NOTHING nefarious!

Sago Thu 18-Apr-24 09:16:58

Interesting article in today’s telegraph re cloud seeding.
Apparently they went too far in UAE.

SueEH Wed 17-Apr-24 15:27:23

Don’t get sucked into the conspiracy theory. Trails behind planes are water vapour and whether they form at all and how long they last is purely subject to atmospheric weather conditions. They are not a method of population control.

fancythat Wed 17-Apr-24 09:49:35

At the same time, you also have to bear in mind that not everyone has the well-being of others as one of their priorities . . .

True.
Life seems more confusing than ever.
May be best for most not to go down too many rabbit holes. Doesnt do most people much good.

That was why I was happy about the cloud seeding part.

fancythat Wed 17-Apr-24 09:45:40

Just so long as you don't assume every single condensation trail from the vapour left behind by a plane is a trail of chemicals designed to poison those below

Hadnt even thought of that.
No. But you have now put that idea in my mind.

I am not an anxious person.

Elegran Wed 17-Apr-24 09:17:21

Just so long as you don't assume every single condensation trail from the vapour left behind by a plane is a trail of chemicals designed to poison those below - that way lies constant anxiety, which will eventually make you as ill as being sprayed with nerve gas from an enemy plane.

At the same time, you also have to bear in mind that not everyone has the well-being of others as one of their priorities . . .

fancythat Wed 17-Apr-24 09:00:12

I am happy to lose the word chemtrail.

I am happy to know about cloud seeding.
I am happy about weather manipulation.

I am now happy about contrails. I presume I am happy about vapour trails.

I am happy about trails blowing around.
I am happy about sky pencils.

Wheniwasyourage Wed 17-Apr-24 08:39:51

It’s more than just words, fancythat. Contrails are lines of condensation left by planes. Chemtrails are the result of conspiracy thinking and do not exist!

fancythat Wed 17-Apr-24 07:42:47

Personally, now I know about cloud seeding existing, and right back to the 50s, that answers my personal questions.

I am never one to get hung up on words. In this case contrails, chemtrails, or whatever.

Shill29 Tue 16-Apr-24 21:28:06

Vapour trails !

Callistemon21 Tue 16-Apr-24 18:16:52

Robin202

It pains me to see how unaware so many are of Geo-Engineering/Weather Manipulation. This has been going on for years.
If anyone is on X (old name Twitter) there is much discussion and information on weather manipulation (chemtrails)

Take a look at @globalCHEMTRAIL on Twitter. and search the term Geo Engineering on Twitter/ Instagram.
Lots of info to be found.

x.com/bgatesisapyscho/status/1778504055741944305?s=46&t=lp3hCfirSI0YcmZzXIBZIA

Contrails disappear - chemtrails linger, they can be switched on and off. They blur together and whiten the sky. Watch the skies. How often do we get the lovely fluffy clouds of old? Now we see white streaks that cris-cross and blend together blocking the sun. If I could post photos of examples I would. A couple of US states have now banned the practice.

Plenty of fluffy white clouds here in the UK today
Then an enormous black one and an absolute deluge.

Someone must have been manipulating the weather 😯

I can't speak for America, of course, anything could be happening there 😁

Juliet27 Tue 16-Apr-24 17:45:02

Wheniwasyourage

*Robin202*, perhaps you should think about getting your scientific knowledge from scientists rather than from the intellectually challenged on X.

If you had been here this morning, you would have seen plenty of "lovely fluffy clouds".

👍

M0nica Tue 16-Apr-24 17:41:45

I love Robin202s suggestion that some US states have banned con trails.

My question is how, given they are a product of the climatic conditions at the height the plane is flying, over which no one has any control?

the problem with conspiracy theorists, like southweaterngran, who wrote
^ Plenty of groups on FB with factual information, whistleblower pilots, scientific explanations etc. I can send you some links if you’re interested^ is that they never do give us these links.

Wheniwasyourage Tue 16-Apr-24 17:09:39

Thanks for that link, Elegran - very interesting and convincing, but of course the conspiracy theorists will be sure that David Keith and other scientists are speaking a load of rubbish. What can you do? Sometimes I despair of the human race!

Wheniwasyourage Tue 16-Apr-24 17:05:00

Robin202, perhaps you should think about getting your scientific knowledge from scientists rather than from the intellectually challenged on X.

If you had been here this morning, you would have seen plenty of "lovely fluffy clouds".

Elegran Tue 16-Apr-24 16:31:48

David Keith's research group - "We receive many emails and letters asking me about chemtrails. Many express deep concern, some are abusive and threatening. This page gives our views on the topic. "
keith.seas.harvard.edu/chemtrails-conspiracy-theory

Elegran Tue 16-Apr-24 16:20:55

"All jet engines can potentially produce contrails, but specific atmospheric conditions are required for contrail formation, per the National Weather Service. The air needs to be both cool and humid — conditions that are most commonly found at cruising altitude." (from Petra's link at Fri 12-Apr-24 13:14:12 ) - so condensation trails may be seen when the planes causing them are cruising at high altitudes, nowhere near an airport, and may be too high to easily spot.

Ziplok Tue 16-Apr-24 16:19:51

Jaxjacky

There is a conspiracy theory that the government gave us a warm 2020 to make lockdown bearable.

😂, I like that Jaxjacky.

Robin202 Tue 16-Apr-24 16:17:50

It pains me to see how unaware so many are of Geo-Engineering/Weather Manipulation. This has been going on for years.
If anyone is on X (old name Twitter) there is much discussion and information on weather manipulation (chemtrails)

Take a look at @globalCHEMTRAIL on Twitter. and search the term Geo Engineering on Twitter/ Instagram.
Lots of info to be found.

x.com/bgatesisapyscho/status/1778504055741944305?s=46&t=lp3hCfirSI0YcmZzXIBZIA

Contrails disappear - chemtrails linger, they can be switched on and off. They blur together and whiten the sky. Watch the skies. How often do we get the lovely fluffy clouds of old? Now we see white streaks that cris-cross and blend together blocking the sun. If I could post photos of examples I would. A couple of US states have now banned the practice.