Trump

I was shocked to find that over a quarter of the money has provided for NHS dentistry in my area remains unspent.

Ooops programme that should read!!!!

maddyone

I also understood Julietthat if people aren’t even able to access NHS dentistry that it must be extremely annoying to realise that asylum seekers can access free dentistry. I’m lucky, I have an excellent NHS dentist, who moves between NHS and private care, which suits me.
Yes I do understand why people might be upset, but as I said, I was just setting out the provision for asylum seekers in the UK. I don’t know how it compared to other countries, but France doesn’t seem to do very well, judging by the camps near the coastline we see on the news regularly.

I saw a Prigg ramen about 1) shortages of actual dentists, 2) Many dentists now only take private or insured patients.

The main reason was because of ongoing inadequate compensation/funding from the govt iro NHS patients. Little bit like the funded Nursery Schemes.

nanna8

What AlwaysSmiling was trying to get across, as was I, is that we would prefer Trump over Biden. Neither of us are talking about his policies re immigrants. We are entitled to our opinions even if you don’t understand them. I see another point of view having dealt with and befriended many Americans who are not from the north and New York. I don’t particularly like the man, he is deeply flawed but that is what is on offer just now.

But no real answer as to why Trump over Biden ? Because your American friends do ? That’s not an answer . Biden has a wealth of experience in politics that Trump does not have . Have you seen the recent news that the Trump administration was awash in medications like Xanax and even Ketamine . Prescribed by the Trump appointee physician . Explains a lot of the erratic behaviour of his administration .

I can't stand Trump.

maddyone

I also understood Julietthat if people aren’t even able to access NHS dentistry that it must be extremely annoying to realise that asylum seekers can access free dentistry. I’m lucky, I have an excellent NHS dentist, who moves between NHS and private care, which suits me.
Yes I do understand why people might be upset, but as I said, I was just setting out the provision for asylum seekers in the UK. I don’t know how it compared to other countries, but France doesn’t seem to do very well, judging by the camps near the coastline we see on the news regularly.

I very much doubt that asylum seekers are the actual cause of people not being able to access NHS dental care, They are just used as an excuse for things that have been badly affected by ears of austerity cuts. Not helped by ‘ I run marathons, me’ Hunt being in charge of the NHS at one point.

Urmstongran

Was anyone surprised Nikki Haley bowed out?

No. But dissapointed.

Totally a disgrace if this vile, vulgar, racist, insane criminal gets into the White House.

He really is horrifying and cruel ..

That’s interesting, although not a surprise re Germany. I already knew that. Unfortunately the chart is rather dated, it’s 2018/19 and much has changed since then, in particular Covid. I’m not sure how that has impacted on immigration anywhere, and I’m not sure that Syrians are the biggest group anymore. Still interesting though.

This is an interesting read......

www.economicsobservatory.com/asylum-seekers-in-europe-where-do-people-go-and-why

I also understood Julietthat if people aren’t even able to access NHS dentistry that it must be extremely annoying to realise that asylum seekers can access free dentistry. I’m lucky, I have an excellent NHS dentist, who moves between NHS and private care, which suits me.
Yes I do understand why people might be upset, but as I said, I was just setting out the provision for asylum seekers in the UK. I don’t know how it compared to other countries, but France doesn’t seem to do very well, judging by the camps near the coastline we see on the news regularly.

maddyone

I knew you understood SW, but I’m not sure everyone did

Of course I can understand the struggle if meals aren’t provided in the hotels but I was reminded of the queues for free dentistry and at food banks.

I knew you understood SW, but I’m not sure everyone did

maddyone

I wasn’t really commenting on why asylum seekers want to come here, I just decided to look up what exactly they are entitled to, since there seem to be varied opinions on that, and I wanted the facts. For instance, I’ve regularly seen it claimed that asylum seekers get £40 per week for expenses such as toiletries but they don’t, they only get that amount if they are living in accommodation without meals provided, and they have to buy food and other essentials from that amount. That’s why I looked it up. It’s all there on the Government website.

I know you were and I already know the answers myself. I've worked with a couple of refugee charities and met amazing, brave people. It's just irksome that people think you'd hang on for your life on the undercarriage of a train for such a pittance per week. Anyway, that's all I'll say on the matter. Thank you for posting it

Obviously the fact that we look after asylum seekers will be a pull factor in their decision to come here. However I’ve seen it reported recently that a few have been so disappointed that they’ve decided to go back to France (I’m really not sure why they want to go back to France because they certainly don’t look after them there.) To be honest I’m not that sure how many are wanting to do this, but maybe the EU is a pull factor as they can move freely around there, especially if eventually they get citizenship.

I wasn’t really commenting on why asylum seekers want to come here, I just decided to look up what exactly they are entitled to, since there seem to be varied opinions on that, and I wanted the facts. For instance, I’ve regularly seen it claimed that asylum seekers get £40 per week for expenses such as toiletries but they don’t, they only get that amount if they are living in accommodation without meals provided, and they have to buy food and other essentials from that amount. That’s why I looked it up. It’s all there on the Government website.

Totally agree Casdon.

Juliet27

Thanks for all that information maddyone

In addition all asylum seekers receive free prescription medications, free dental care, free eye sight tests, and help paying for glasses

Dare I say you can understand why they’re so keen to get here.

Juliet27

Dare I say you can understand why they’re so keen to get here

For not even a tenner a week? Of course 🤷

maddyone

Casdon

Trump has been making similar mistakes frequently lately.
Be warned Urmstongran, if we make it to near eighty it will happen to us too.
www.bu.edu/articles/2024/trump-biden-signs-of-cognitive-decline/

The difference Casdon is that we won’t be running for the Prime Minister of this country, let alone the premiership of the most powerful country in the west.

I know. They are both too old and showing signs of cognitive decline, and should bow out.

Thanks for all that information maddyone

In addition all asylum seekers receive free prescription medications, free dental care, free eye sight tests, and help paying for glasses

Dare I say you can understand why they’re so keen to get here.

Was anyone surprised Nikki Haley bowed out?

Cossy

GrannyGravy13

At the risk of being accused of ageism, I think both front runners are too old to be POTUS.

There is a fine line between years of experience and when our brains and bodies begin to slow down.

I completely agree

I agree, too.

But, if I had to make a choice I would go for the sane and experienced, if forgetful, politician, who has done good things for the US economy, rather than the incoherent insurrectionist charlatan.

GrannyGravy13

At the risk of being accused of ageism, I think both front runners are too old to be POTUS.

There is a fine line between years of experience and when our brains and bodies begin to slow down.

I completely agree

Casdon

Trump has been making similar mistakes frequently lately.
Be warned Urmstongran, if we make it to near eighty it will happen to us too.
www.bu.edu/articles/2024/trump-biden-signs-of-cognitive-decline/

The difference Casdon is that we won’t be running for the Prime Minister of this country, let alone the premiership of the most powerful country in the west.

GrannyGravy13

At the risk of being accused of ageism, I think both front runners are too old to be POTUS.

There is a fine line between years of experience and when our brains and bodies begin to slow down.

I agree.