Trump

Very good summary in that tweet.

A good summary of Bidens' speech

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/07/joe-biden-state-of-the-union-address

(used the Guardian ref as no pay wall)

Which impressed me favourably.

twitter.com/bmay/status/1765805296218194324?t=7oz_cned-dJCq2L6pQQlMQ&s=19

It would be here, too.

Urmstongran I believe what you said is classed as defamation in the USA.

Urmstongran

Hours of prep and some amphetamines got him through the shouty speech .. this man isn’t capable of holding his office. So who is running the US?

Obama from his Washington home? This is why some folk are calling Biden’s presidency ‘Obama’s 3rd term’.

Weird post

Amphetamines? Do you have evidence (not gossip) that he is reliant on them?

Hours of prep and some amphetamines got him through the shouty speech .. this man isn’t capable of holding his office. So who is running the US?

Obama from his Washington home? This is why some folk are calling Biden’s presidency ‘Obama’s 3rd term’.

Don’t know what I pressed in error there! Apologies. It should have just been this bit (and why I thanked Gundy)

I am totally impressed by all the GN’ters who stay informed and are following our election cycle this year. You are very informed and up to speed on what is happening, because the outcome will have global ramifications

suelld

Germanshepherdsmum

Syracute

I watched all of Biden’s State of the Union speech and he nailed it.
Dispels 100 percent all the naysayers about Biden’s capabilities due his age. His message was spot on and very powerful .
Bravo !

It was great - but it was a prepared speech with no questions afterwards. How is he going to fare in different circumstances?

Biden has done pretty well ‘off the cuff’ ..he has a problem with Public Speaking in that his stutter sometimes makes seem less sharp than he is. Trump reads from a Teleprompter too, but tho a polished Snake-oil Salesman, when he goes ‘off piste’ he says the most weird and disturbing things…Biden ‘off piste’ is sharp and to the point, often slow, but weighing his answers carefully, with his stutter more predominant under those circumstances giving the appearance of old and not understanding…. Trump just LOOKS better, until you try to understand what he has said!…or gasp at his idiocy!

^ I am totally impressed by all the GN’ters who stay informed and are following our election cycle this year. You are very informed and up to speed on what is happening, because the outcome will have global ramifications^

Thank you for saying this Gundy as I have been shit down in the past for wanting to talk about the USA political scene as in ‘what’s it got to do with you?’ And ‘you don’t vote here!’. Which I thought was a bizarre when the outcome is so very important for the world in so many ways -peace, trade issues, diplomacy.

Syracute

suelld

Frenchgalinspain

What a scary movie the 2024 Usa elections are.

Truly scary.

I am hoping that Biden or Robert F. Kennedy Jr. shall somehow win the electoral college and votes.

California, Washington State, Oregon, New York, Rhode Island, Connecticut and Vermont are historically democratic.

So, all my best wishes to both Biden and Kennedy !!

I have listened to several interviews of Kennedy and he has definitely some very wise initiatives.

Biden stepped on his toes for the Democratic ballot and that is when Kennedy changed to an Independent Format Party.

Many young people will not vote for Trump and neither will the gay population nor women in states that do not provide legal abortions.

The Mexicans that can vote shall not vote for Trump as he detests Latin Americans. Trump is an enormous racist.

He has stated he wants to deport all Muslims and Latin Americans that are studying or put in Asylum Documents.

Do a bit more research into RFKjnr…he has a few sensible comments, but basically he’s as mad as the proverbial bag of frogs. He also LIEs… he has changed his thoughts and policies like the wind, he’s a rampant anti-vaxxer. He promotes anti-vaccine misinformation, and public health conspiracy theories.
Many of his often disproved public health claims have targeted prominent figures such as Anthony Fauci, Bill Gates, and Joe Biden. Kennedy targets Black Americans with anti-vaccine propaganda and conspiracy theories, linking vaccination with instances of medical racism such as the Tuskegee Syphilis Study,! At a dinner event in July 2023, Kennedy said "there is an argument that (COVID-19) is ethnically targeted", adding "COVID-19 is targeted to attack Caucasians and Black people. The people who are the most immune are Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese ... ! Total rubbish! Kennedy is a "full blown" HIV/AIDS denialist. Several members from Kennedy's close family have distanced themselves from him. Kennedy Jr. posited that several issues in children, including gender dysphoria, might be linked to atrazine contamination in the water supply! Zero evidence of this. Kennedy Jr. blamed school shootings on drugs like the antidepressant Prozac. He is for Guns!
Do Not Vote for him! But do your own research!

Thank you for posting this ! Well said.
He also invaded an established river trust charity and claimed it as his own. Lied about having founded it. Yes, his own family had to denounce him publicly due to his going down the rabbit hole of conspiracy theories.

Plus Robert F. Kennedy Jr. raised eyebrows this week when the Independent presidential candidate dodged a question about Jeffrey Epstein by name-dropping other acquaintances convicted of sex crimes.!!

suelld You are correct in your assessment of Robert Kennedy, Jr - basically he is a man of his own making and some consider him a total spoiler, taking away votes from both candidates- probably more from Biden than Trump. He deals in many conspiracy theories and does change his mind about things. You can’t keep up with a whack job like that.

RK, Jr is of the family we’ve known and respected for generations but his own relatives have repudiated him and do not support him. That does say something about the man.

Sorry, Gundy.

Yes, I understand that Gumdy.

suelld

Frenchgalinspain

What a scary movie the 2024 Usa elections are.

Truly scary.

I am hoping that Biden or Robert F. Kennedy Jr. shall somehow win the electoral college and votes.

California, Washington State, Oregon, New York, Rhode Island, Connecticut and Vermont are historically democratic.

So, all my best wishes to both Biden and Kennedy !!

I have listened to several interviews of Kennedy and he has definitely some very wise initiatives.

Biden stepped on his toes for the Democratic ballot and that is when Kennedy changed to an Independent Format Party.

Many young people will not vote for Trump and neither will the gay population nor women in states that do not provide legal abortions.

The Mexicans that can vote shall not vote for Trump as he detests Latin Americans. Trump is an enormous racist.

He has stated he wants to deport all Muslims and Latin Americans that are studying or put in Asylum Documents.

Do a bit more research into RFKjnr…he has a few sensible comments, but basically he’s as mad as the proverbial bag of frogs. He also LIEs… he has changed his thoughts and policies like the wind, he’s a rampant anti-vaxxer. He promotes anti-vaccine misinformation, and public health conspiracy theories.
Many of his often disproved public health claims have targeted prominent figures such as Anthony Fauci, Bill Gates, and Joe Biden. Kennedy targets Black Americans with anti-vaccine propaganda and conspiracy theories, linking vaccination with instances of medical racism such as the Tuskegee Syphilis Study,! At a dinner event in July 2023, Kennedy said "there is an argument that (COVID-19) is ethnically targeted", adding "COVID-19 is targeted to attack Caucasians and Black people. The people who are the most immune are Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese ... ! Total rubbish! Kennedy is a "full blown" HIV/AIDS denialist. Several members from Kennedy's close family have distanced themselves from him. Kennedy Jr. posited that several issues in children, including gender dysphoria, might be linked to atrazine contamination in the water supply! Zero evidence of this. Kennedy Jr. blamed school shootings on drugs like the antidepressant Prozac. He is for Guns!
Do Not Vote for him! But do your own research!

Thank you for posting this ! Well said.
He also invaded an established river trust charity and claimed it as his own. Lied about having founded it. Yes, his own family had to denounce him publicly due to his going down the rabbit hole of conspiracy theories.

Germanshepherdsmum

Syracute

I watched all of Biden’s State of the Union speech and he nailed it.
Dispels 100 percent all the naysayers about Biden’s capabilities due his age. His message was spot on and very powerful .
Bravo !

It was great - but it was a prepared speech with no questions afterwards. How is he going to fare in different circumstances?

Biden has done pretty well ‘off the cuff’ ..he has a problem with Public Speaking in that his stutter sometimes makes seem less sharp than he is. Trump reads from a Teleprompter too, but tho a polished Snake-oil Salesman, when he goes ‘off piste’ he says the most weird and disturbing things…Biden ‘off piste’ is sharp and to the point, often slow, but weighing his answers carefully, with his stutter more predominant under those circumstances giving the appearance of old and not understanding…. Trump just LOOKS better, until you try to understand what he has said!…or gasp at his idiocy!

FYI Germanshepherdsmum No President would ever go into the State of Union address without a written, prepared and even rehearsed speech on the teleprompter. It is THE speech of the year! They start working on it weeks in advance to layout their record, accomplishments and future of the party they represent. For Biden this was also the kickoff for his national campaign for November.

It’s not a news conference where you speak extemporaneously and take questions from the media afterwards.

I am totally impressed by all the GN’ters who stay informed and are following our election cycle this year. You are very informed and up to speed on what is happening, because the outcome will have global ramifications. It will be either a good or not so good outcome - possibly even the last free election for my country. That IS what we are up against this time.

Frenchgalinspain

What a scary movie the 2024 Usa elections are.

Truly scary.

I am hoping that Biden or Robert F. Kennedy Jr. shall somehow win the electoral college and votes.

California, Washington State, Oregon, New York, Rhode Island, Connecticut and Vermont are historically democratic.

So, all my best wishes to both Biden and Kennedy !!

I have listened to several interviews of Kennedy and he has definitely some very wise initiatives.

Biden stepped on his toes for the Democratic ballot and that is when Kennedy changed to an Independent Format Party.

Many young people will not vote for Trump and neither will the gay population nor women in states that do not provide legal abortions.

The Mexicans that can vote shall not vote for Trump as he detests Latin Americans. Trump is an enormous racist.

He has stated he wants to deport all Muslims and Latin Americans that are studying or put in Asylum Documents.

Do a bit more research into RFKjnr…he has a few sensible comments, but basically he’s as mad as the proverbial bag of frogs. He also LIEs… he has changed his thoughts and policies like the wind, he’s a rampant anti-vaxxer. He promotes anti-vaccine misinformation, and public health conspiracy theories.
Many of his often disproved public health claims have targeted prominent figures such as Anthony Fauci, Bill Gates, and Joe Biden. Kennedy targets Black Americans with anti-vaccine propaganda and conspiracy theories, linking vaccination with instances of medical racism such as the Tuskegee Syphilis Study,! At a dinner event in July 2023, Kennedy said "there is an argument that (COVID-19) is ethnically targeted", adding "COVID-19 is targeted to attack Caucasians and Black people. The people who are the most immune are Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese ... ! Total rubbish! Kennedy is a "full blown" HIV/AIDS denialist. Several members from Kennedy's close family have distanced themselves from him. Kennedy Jr. posited that several issues in children, including gender dysphoria, might be linked to atrazine contamination in the water supply! Zero evidence of this. Kennedy Jr. blamed school shootings on drugs like the antidepressant Prozac. He is for Guns!
Do Not Vote for him! But do your own research!

I wish it wasn't going to be a Biden/Trump race as Biden is too old (not being ageist but the position needs a younger man as it's punishing job) and Trump, apart from also being too old, is totally unsuitable. However, sadly a very large number of Americans are very isolationist, they don't see why the US should pay to keep the rest of the world safe. Let's be honest, they only came into the last war because Japan bombed Pearl Harbour, there was huge opposition to America becoming involved and since then the US has not succeeded in their bid to protect the world from communists and the axis of evil. Biden needs voters to feel that they are better off under him than under a Trump presidency, that's how he'll win.

Macadia at least it was fake! 👍

Urmstongran

Clearly the Republicans want him and clearly the blob is scared of him.

I predict he'll win bigly.

😁

Who the * is the ‘blob’?
Trump is a vile, misogynistic, LIAR. A Rapist and Narcissist. The only thing he loves is himself. He couldn’t care less about the USA except what it can give HIM.
Did you watch the SOTU last night…Biden’s outlook is the America the World wants…not an Authoritarian Dictatorship, with all the freedoms you knew culled, and stamped on, as Trump runs his own fascist private Army…beware of what you wish for!

Germanshepherdsmum

Syracute

I watched all of Biden’s State of the Union speech and he nailed it.
Dispels 100 percent all the naysayers about Biden’s capabilities due his age. His message was spot on and very powerful .
Bravo !

It was great - but it was a prepared speech with no questions afterwards. How is he going to fare in different circumstances?

Did you actually watch it ? Biden had many off the cuff remarks he made after being taunted by far right republicans that proved his ability to think quickly and answer forcefully. It was a State of the Union address. There are no questions after that.

Although Biden is showing his age, I fondly imagine he has some competent advisers around him. I doubt that Trump, however, would ever take advice from anyone. He’s a dangerous lone wolf.

Germanshepherdsmum

Now that I didn’t see. Fingers crossed for him, though I fear both he and Trump are too old to be embarking on another term.

I agree that they are both too old. Apart from the obvious concerns about a Trump triumph which have been discussed at length on this thread, if he gets back in he will be getting revenge for not being re-elected last time. The Republican party need to sort themselves out, it is all very well bypassing your moral code in order to gain power, but surely even the most right wing fundamental Republican must realise that a Trump victory will make the USA a laughing stock? Who is going to take that maniac seriously?

Now that I didn’t see. Fingers crossed for him, though I fear both he and Trump are too old to be embarking on another term.

Germanshepherdsmum.I watched it too and it was great. But I also watched and listened to the piece afterwards (about 15 mins -maybe 20) where if you really focused you can hear people talking to him afterwards and how he replies.

He seemed pretty good then too, to me.