We often go to Wetherspoons for breakfast - fantastic value and really good quality. Yes, there are some people (well, nearly always men, I've observed) who are sitting there nursing pints at 9 in the morning but, hey ho, they are not harming anyone and it's their choice. Also I sometimes meet friends there for lunch - always had good meals at very reasonable prices. I particularly like the fact that they do small versions of things like fish and chips as I have a small appetite and can't often manage large meals. We also seek their branches out when we are on holiday as they are often in beautiful old buildings and are generally clean and well maintained (obviously there are exceptions as there are in every chain). I am interested in what political views poor old Tim has that makes him 'odious'. There was a case of dreadful misreporting during lockdown, which resulted in apologies from many newspapers. Unfortunately, mud sticks and many people still believe it. Or it it just that he supported Brexit? Many people voted for it (well, actually the majority of people who voted) - are we all 'odious'?