The Police, what's the point of them?

GSM
What are you finding disgraceful?
Just asking

Sorry but I stand by my point if you feel a post breaks guidelines then report it, trying to shut a thread down when people are trying to discuss things isnt great.

What do we expect - with all the cutbacks and underfunding by the Tories? We have a police force that can't manage to do their jobs properly. They have to prioritise the really important stuff, also pick up the problems caused by a lack of mental health services etc.

Exactly!!!!

Sad? I find them disgraceful,

I find the tone of some of these messages quite sad. Have we forgotten PC Andrew Harper who went to investigate a robbery and was dragged behind the suspect’s getaway car to his death? Or the two WPCs who were killed in a gun and grenade incident whilst investigating a robbery, plus countless others hard working officers killed in the line of duty?

I don't think the police are rubbish but there is a lack of investigative work going on because they are thin on the ground. From what I have experienced, this lack of police officers leads to them having to rush their paperwork which leads to mistakes. Those mistakes can change the course of the investigation or even mean the case doesn't go to court.

Those who think insurance is the answer, it just means the public end up paying dearly for that. If the public are going to pay increased premiums which only lines the pocket of the insurance companies, let's make a change an pay that money to the police to police.

As for bikes being stolen, the business where I got my bike from is like Fort Know but they got into the building by stealing a farm vehicle and smashing through the walls. The police did get an automatic call but didn't attend so he lost tens of thousands of pounds and was left without stock. The building had to be rebuilt and the insurance company increased his premium so much, he was considering whether to stay in business. These businesses are often run by people who have sunk everything they have into them and then some scumbag ruins them.
Even when the thieves are convicted, they get a slap on the wrist. It is quite disgraceful.

Cutbacks, police stations closed and lack of community police, paperwork for everything. No I don’t the police as rubbish ! Sad sign of the times

Obviously if there has to be a choice between dealing with a missing child for example, or a violent domestic situation, and theft from a shop, then the first two situations should be prioritised
So what’s the answer? Give in to it? Let them help themselves?
On our business park, the business owners are pretty much doing their own policing, and the time will surely come when something goes horribly wrong.
I know the police are overstretched, the last dealings we had with them, was with an elderly chap brought out of retirement.
I’m not knocking them, just saying that the police force is completely inadequate to meet the needs of the community.

Nicenanny3 How did the police know the person had taken a picture of the sign? Wouldn't have posted it on social media by any chance!
The police have more rules, regulations, laws to deal with than ever before, bigger populations. Just like NHS they have to prioritise.

An appalling criticism. The case of the policeman who recently lost his life trying to save someone from a railway line has already been mentioned. Some people have very short memories when complaining about thefts of bikes and mobile phones not being investigated. That policeman, like all his colleagues, was no namby pamby afraid of his own shadow. Perhaps to honour his memory, and the memory of all other serving police officers who have lost their lives in the line of duty, including one whose widow posts on GN, we could end this thread now.

Sorry GSN x post.

So police being called 'namby pambies' isn't personal?

Nicenanny3

They don't respond to burglary, they don't respond to shoplifting if its under £200, although they do respond to hate crimes when there is actually no crime. Don’t get me wrong I want a strong efficient police force, I want zero tolerance on knife crimes but what have we got a lot of namby pambies frightened of their own shadows, kneeling to BLM and waving raimbow flags.

This was something of a personal attack Galaxy. Very unpleasant.

I think it's a fine to discuss issues that relate to policing, as it is fine to discuss issues relating to any profession. I dont think that should really be seen as an attack on individuals. I have worked within childrens services for most of my career and am happy for people to discuss issues relating to that sector. So for example we sonetimes get things wrong for children with autism it's not a personal attack for people to discuss that.

vintageclassics

Let's just hope Nicenanny3 is never involved in a RTC where the police are first on scene to give first aid / scrape you off the road / break the news to you loved ones or you have mental health issues and need talking down from that bridge or just imply go missing - just who do you think would look for you? Hopefully you'll never be involved in something like the London Bridge attack where police run towards danger. Perhaps you'll be lucky enough to never experience knife crime or have to deal with local drug dealers preying on your grandchrildren!

Is it open season on bashing the police, most of whom are decent honest individuals fighting crime with insufficient resource and other priorities which shouldn't be thiers?

Thank you vintage

My son has scraped people off the road several times and had to search the verges for missing body parts for one accident. He's been spat at, sworn at and almost missed his wedding after being hit by a brick during a riot.

He is forever being sent on diversity training to be told what the latest thinking is on what he is allowed to say and what not.

He doesn't think "I wont attend that crime but go to that one instead" He has to go where he is told. They used to be sent out in twos but invariably he is on his own as there are not enough officers

He is a kind caring person just doing his best and his health and marriage has suffered because of it

Nicenanny3

Essex police chief whose force raided pub on suspicion of 'hate crimes' for having golliwog dolls behind bar has 'no 'regrets' despite CPS later dropping the case (Daily Mail)

They sent 6 police officers to seize the golliwogs. The golliwogs had been on display for 10 years landlady said. Pub now closed. Essex police chief had no regrets, you couldn't make it up could you, a good use of 6 policemens time I don’t think so.

Another Daily Mail "story." They are intent on discrediting the police. If this story is true then the order for a raid on gollywogs will have come from much higher up than the police.

My son in law is in the police and is run off his feet and totally done in with the job it's making him ill. His rest days and holidays are cancelled regularly to help cover. There are NOT ENOUGH police officers and the ones who are there are getting the brunt of it!!!! Did you ever think of that scenario?? No you prefer to moan and undermine the officers who are trying their best. Just continue with your little blinkered view on life.

Essex police chief whose force raided pub on suspicion of 'hate crimes' for having golliwog dolls behind bar has 'no 'regrets' despite CPS later dropping the case (Daily Mail)

They sent 6 police officers to seize the golliwogs. The golliwogs had been on display for 10 years landlady said. Pub now closed. Essex police chief had no regrets, you couldn't make it up could you, a good use of 6 policemens time I don’t think so.

The bikes are unlikely to be unique or of sentimental value such as the diamond ring or artwork you describe HPQ. They should have been insured and securely locked up. The insurers would then have paid for replacements. Wouldn’t any sane person claim on the insurance rather than getting a drone, hiring a private investigator and travelling to Poland? Obviously they either weren’t insured or the insurance conditions (such as keeping them locked up probably) hadn’t been met. The police are better employed in catching dangerous, armed criminals than finding replaceable items. Lives can’t be replaced.

Kate1949

I'm sure the police have better things to do than bother with stolen bikes, whatever they are worth. The cyclist wasn't forced to spend £6000. It was his choice to do so.

nice bit of victim blaming. So, if a burglar breaks into your house, and steals your flat screen Tv, your Mother's diamond ring, your treasured and saved up for piece of art.....is that your fault for having it?

My DH was a police officer and he worried that if there were 2 or 3 serious incidents happening at once in the city he worked in they would only be able to attend one.
Police numbers have been drastically cut by government and the police have to bear the anger of the public when they are unable to help when anger should be directed to those who have created this problem.
Most police officers do their best and believe me it is a horrible job.
I used to wonder when DH left for work if he would return home and a few times he didn't ending up in hospital while doing his job.
As others have said complain to your MPs and don't blame the police.

Our large area had one car available. It was ten miles away when my neighbour phoned after thieves drilled a hole in his garage roof to steal his tools, the doors and windows too secure for them

The Police Force have had many cuts. Thanks to the Tories.
They can't be everywhere at once.
They can't be dealing with a stolen bike whilst dealing with a rape. That's the way it is now.

Incidentally the value of the bikes isn’t exactly comparable to that of Tamara Ecclestone’s jewels.