Soup throwing again

I don't like propaganda.

That is the problem with an internet forum. We have no idea who posters are, hidden behind their usernames, and what their agenda might be.

Ah this has all got got very weird, hasn't it...?

Got got

I have seen a lot weirder things. You need to look at the internet more

volver3

Ah this has all got got very weird, hasn't it...?

No, I dont think so. Pretty standard.

Trans activists got a free pass, some people dont believe it most do.

volver3

Ah this has all got got very weird, hasn't it...?

Not at all.
When someone tells us something and then categorically changes that fact, it’s makes you wonder what the agenda is 🤔

volver3

Ah this has all got got very weird, hasn't it...?

It's certainly has.

It's like living in a parallel universe on GN sometimes.

volver3

Ah this has all got got very weird, hasn't it...?

Oh you’re soooo right V3. I totally agree with you.

What’s weird?

Trans activists got a free pass from some people.

Glorianny have you read Jumbleygrans post Thurs 30/03/23?

It's been well documented that a 70y was hit and had a fractured scull, and the speaker had tomato juice thrown over them.
That is 2 assaults.

The NZ police have the evidence from other peoples phones.

You don't have to sully your fingers by clicking on PP's website.

Glorianny Rosie51 I ignored your video. Taken from Poppy's website and carefully cut and edited to make it seem much worse. It does explain why she chose to leave where she did. Best camera detail. There is a more accurate video showing her arrival and the police escorting her out earlier in this thread.
I don't like propaganda
Well I've trawled all through the thread from page 1 and I cannot find the link you refer to with regard to a more accurate video Please can you direct me to the appropriate post?

Incidentally the overhead views in the link I provided, which is most of the video, were shot by an independent photographer, not KJK. When you say ignored, do you mean you didn't watch it or you chose not to believe the evidence of your own eyes? I thought the shorter version would be more easily viewed.

You said there was no fighting, you don't count the 70 year old woman punched several times by a TRA thug, who besides getting a black swollen eye, also suffered a skull fracture? I'm sure she'd agree!

I think that if anyone has listened to the testimonies of the women who were there to listen or speak at the woman's event would not belittle the scariness of being attacked by an angry mob.
The woman, Linda who was working with police liason has shared on an independent site. She was liaising with Police for Kelly J for several weeks before the event. Her contact stopped answering her phone from the Saturday morning, there was no communication. Very odd. Any way her story is here

www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJ9FqiNcV80

She was another who was assaulted and I expect there were quite a few others. She ended up hanging onto the end of a fence which the TRAs were trying to use a a weapon on the band rotunda.

Glorianny I would encourage to to listen to Linda it is harrowing and the site is independent of Speak for Women.

Thank you for the link Jumblygran What an awful experience for 'Linda'.
To think the police would stand by and do nothing.
Do you have any thoughts on why they would behave in this way?

22.29....sorry, scull = skull

No Namsnanny I don't, there needs to be an inquiry into the police behaviour.
They must have had orders to from someone.

Rosie51 Here's the New Zealand news view of the event. www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWkOvKfB4Ek

When viewing Posie's own video you have to ask yourself if they are faced with a crowd of protesters why would someone choose to exit straight through the centre of a crowd? It isn't something anyone would normally do. You would head for the edge where there was more space, unless of course you wanted to portray yourself as being in danger. Anyone knows that passing through the centre of a crowd is difficult not because people are necessarily targeting anyone, but because creating space for someone to pass through (along with a security detail), means pushing people out of the way, which creates tension and causes people to push back.
The NZ reporter is able to move freely about so there was space. And you can see the police supporting her when they are able to find her.

I listened to Linda. Honestly expecting police officers to answer the phone on the morning of an important rally they will be policing is ridiculous and a bit self centred.

volver3

It wasn't even soup, it was juice.

Still no blood talk.

www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/posie-parker-juice-thrower-protester-eli-rubashkyn-gets-death-threats-and-offers-of-legal-support/BC5XO2747RHT3G6L4BGZJDPWCU/

Rosie51 you can see the police presence on here. Considerable numbers and she leaves in a police car. It's a newspaper article but it links to the video.
Saying the police were not there. Saying the police didn't protect her is manifestly wrong. I think what probably happened is she saw an excellent opportunity to stir up public opinion and chose to exit through the crowd without the police knowing. Once they were able to reach her there was a huge police presence protecting her. But they can't respond to sudden actions.

TRA violence towards women seems to be being praised on here, or at least not condemned.
Nothing new then.

Yes clearly it was a planned strategy, maybe decided upon at that moment.
But very poor to liaise with her before, then just leave her and the audience to the mercy of the hooligans

They were not hooligans they were demonstrating their right to stop anyone spreading hate speech. Just because you support the ideas being spread doesn't mean others have to listen to them.

Yes physical violence, well they should have walked the other way. Call someone a hooligan and tut tut tut.

.....'Yes clearly it was a planned strategy by the police'....
For clarification of my post above.

To add it doesnt matter which way you cut it, there were no assaults from any group be they Nazies or Pp supporters.

The only crimes comitted were by Trans activist.

The truth must prevail.

Namsnanny

.....'Yes clearly it was a planned strategy by the police'....
For clarification of my post above.

To add it doesnt matter which way you cut it, there were no assaults from any group be they Nazies or Pp supporters.

The only crimes comitted were by Trans activist.

The truth must prevail.

You would think so Namsnanny.
For some, if you hear something you don’t like, or that you consider is wrong, violence is the answer. Says it all really.
I can’t post from previous threads. If I could, I’d cut and paste the evidence that if TRA activists are being violent towards women, the same posters deny that the TRA are the ones in the wrong.
Same old, same old.

Mollygo

TRA violence towards women seems to be being praised on here, or at least not condemned.
Nothing new then.

Not by most posters Mollygo.

And just because some activists shout the loudest and think violence is the way to put women in their perceived place, it does not mean they speak for the majority.

Somebody said last night that children needed protection from me.

Apparently objecting to the demonisation of drag queens means you are a danger to children.

Anybody like to condemn that?