My first Karen

I just thought that it was misogyny, a special middle aged white women type.
Who should just know their place in society and shut up

There has been some interesting research on the ‘Karen’ issue. One researcher summed it up as someone who moves through the world prepared to fight a faceless conglomerate of lesser-than people who won't give her what she wants and feels she deserves.
Food for thought
No it isn’t.
It is quite unacceptable to attribute characteristics to anybody with a particular Christian/given name. That they are negative characteristics is even worse. And why “ she” ? Sexist too.
Try referring to people of colour as “Sambo” and see how far you get. This sort of pseudo-sociologibabble is not worth the space given to write it down. .

This whole thing about all Karens being some sort of harridan is absolute nonsense.
Why pick on Karen? Why not Charlotte or Emily? Why anyone quite frankly. It’s clearly ridiculous.
There are unpleasant people about but they have have a variety of names.

I can’t help noticing that some of the people who are posting in support of the “The bullying has to stop” thread are the same ones who are trying to shut this thread down ??

Sorry Vampire but even if the phone was in his lap (which is not what you first said) the light shines upwards and would be seen by others
It’s bad manners in all senses and most venues make it very clear you are not to record of photograph the act ….Buy the cd to send to the friend in SA
It’s also in very bad taste to use a persons name to signify her faults It started in America and is a use in a very derogatory manner

Whatever the rights and wrongs of recording a concert, the title of the post was insulting to anyone called Karen.

Enid101
There has been some interesting research on the ‘Karen’ issue.
One researcher summed it up as someone who moves through the world prepared to fight a faceless conglomerate of lesser-than people who won't give her what she wants and feels she deserves.
Food for thought.

This contradicts your previous post where you complain about people on here being unkind. Research on the 'Karen' issue is not interesting it is insulting our intelligence. Name calling is a childish pursuit and adults should know better.

I can’t help noticing that some of the people who are posting in support of the “The bullying has to stop” thread are the same ones who are trying to shut this thread down.

Yes, I spotted that too Lathyrus but maybe not too surprising, as the hijacking of the name Karen, as a misogynistic, racist and ageist slur has actually been used on these boards several times in the past, by people who claim to be vehemently against bullying in other forms.

Did the use of 'Karen' add anything to the story?
I don't think so.

Chewbacca

^I can’t help noticing that some of the people who are posting in support of the “The bullying has to stop” thread are the same ones who are trying to shut this thread down.^

Yes, I spotted that too Lathyrus but maybe not too surprising, as the hijacking of the name Karen, as a misogynistic, racist and ageist slur has actually been used on these boards several times in the past, by people who claim to be vehemently against bullying in other forms.

My understanding of Lathyrus’s post was that they were accusing the critics of VQ’s misuse of the name Karen, of being the bullies.

Ie the OP was being bullied

Chewbacca

^I can’t help noticing that some of the people who are posting in support of the “The bullying has to stop” thread are the same ones who are trying to shut this thread down.^

Yes, I spotted that too Lathyrus but maybe not too surprising, as the hijacking of the name Karen, as a misogynistic, racist and ageist slur has actually been used on these boards several times in the past, by people who claim to be vehemently against bullying in other forms.

Thank you Chewbacca

Oh dear. I was oblique?

Jst the opposite fanny.

I was remarking on people who whilst fervently opposing the perceived bullying of Meghan were objecting to those who opposed the bullying of Karen (or any other named person).

The irony .

Thank you Lathyrus! No need to apologise at all.
I’m constantly tying myself in syntactic knots on here!

Possibly Fanny, I cannot speak for Lathyrus but my post still stands nevertheless. Using a woman's name, any name, as a derogatory, ageist, misogynistic and racist slur is never acceptable. It's been used on GN threads in the past by some posters who are vocal in their condemnation of other forms of bullying.
I'm perplexed as to why, on one thread, some posters are able to see that negative criticism of women, by women, is to be deplored but, at the same time, think nothing of using a woman's name as a general slur against white, middle aged women. Hypocrisy.

Crossed postedLathyrus, your post is as I thought.

Sorted! And I quite agree Chewbacca

My second name is Karen and I love it.

Gosh that's a stretch isn't it?

OP just took a rather popular meme younger people are using constantly for whatever reason.

And has been thoroughly told off for doing so.

Lesson learned, no?

Or must OP be mob flogged for 40 pages?

And anyone pointing out that perhaps the message has been sent loud and clear needs to get a good stoning too?

2 wrongs = right?

Or can the OP have another chance before the pitchforks come out?

No pitchforks no flogging and it’s 5 pages not 40. Since the op hasn’t returned it might be assumed she feels ok about what isn’t ok, whatever ‘Young people’ might do or think.

VioletSky Op could / should have apologised for causing offence.
I thought that that was just the done thing

OP just took a rather popular meme younger people are using constantly for whatever reason.

It wasn't a rather popular meme used by a younger person when it was used so frequently here on GN though was it? It was used then, as it has been used now, by an older woman, against an older woman and it was pointed out to you then why it was so unacceptable. Educated, non bullying young people stopped using the meme a long time ago; it's only ignorant bullies who perpetuate it's use now.

They probably left

You guys carry on though

Have fun

So if it’s popular it’s ok? Or if it’s popular with the young it’s ok?
Not sure what you’re saying there?

Not all of them left.

If it’s ok if it’s popular why object to the Meghan thread. That’s very popular.