I liked it when Beatrice wore a funny hat to a Royal Wedding and got ridiculed for it. She proceeded to auction it and raised money for a (children's?) charity.
I need advice for a mutually messy situation
Just that really.
I thought the Queen looked amazing, considering the time she's had. She looked so dignified as well.
I sort of agree with PA helping her in. After all, he is her son and it's a memorial service for his father.
Also it's a way of showing certain absent members that 'this is what loyalty' in a family looks like.
The children were beautifully behaved and doesn't Princess Charlotte have a look of the Queen about her?
It does seem a bit sad that Harry wasnt there.
If this was any ordinary family I suppose we would be saying he has gone No Contact with Prince Charles and that he and the Queen are estrangedparents/grandparents!
Seems a bit cruel to do that to an old lady, in what could be one of her last public engagements.
But that is my opinion.
I'm sure the PH fanclub will be along in a minute to disagree. 
Other than that, it was a lovely service.
I liked it when Beatrice wore a funny hat to a Royal Wedding and got ridiculed for it. She proceeded to auction it and raised money for a (children's?) charity.
Not only going on Oprah but telling so many lies in that interview
While on the subject did anyone else notice the comforting smile Aunty Beatrice gave a bewildered little Charlotte during the service? Sweet.
Threats from these forthcoming memoirs aren't particularly edifying either. Trashing your own family for the whole world to see especially when a lot of what you are saying is simply not true, making money from this and your dead mother is extremely unattractive to put it mildly. To cause your very elderly grandmother and dying grandfather, whose only sin is to love you and try to accommodate you and your new wife, such hurt and grief is by any standards at best shabby and at worst cruel. Unbelievable and sad.
snowberryZ
^Is that what they call a delayed reaction?^
No.
Its just I've finally realised that you disrupt nearly every thread I've started.
Its taken me a while to wade through them all.
Perhaps you can give a list of the threads you've started that I've "disrupted". If you think I'm looking for your threads to "disrupt", you've a good conceit of yourself.
As for telling me that there's no thread I won't trash with my nastiness, well I imagine that could count as a personal attack. But I'm not the reporting type, so we'll just leave that there.
Gilly3
I liked it when Beatrice wore a funny hat to a Royal Wedding and got ridiculed for it. She proceeded to auction it and raised money for a (children's?) charity.
Yes, brilliant!
I think I really like the York girls.
volver
snowberryZ
Is that what they call a delayed reaction?
No.
Its just I've finally realised that you disrupt nearly every thread I've started.
Its taken me a while to wade through them all.Perhaps you can give a list of the threads you've started that I've "disrupted". If you think I'm looking for your threads to "disrupt", you've a good conceit of yourself.
As for telling me that there's no thread I won't trash with my nastiness, well I imagine that could count as a personal attack. But I'm not the reporting type, so we'll just leave that there.
Oh no Volver, did you say something about liking baggy clothes or white trainers and floral dresses ? So nasty of you….
Oops I have strayed from the OP there . Sorry but it’s my witching hour of insomnia.
I don't think it is possible to can sink much lower than attacking mourners visibly upset at a service commemorating their grandfather, by speculating that their tears were induced not by grief but because their father was accused of involvement in sex trafficking, apparently in receipt of payments from a dubious source, the concluded followed by a completely irrelevant jibe about the employment of one of them.
Neither Beatrice nor Eugenie have made public comments about their father's behaviour nor asked for sympathy; they do not deserve to be the butt of these spiteful and ill-judged comments.
the concluded followed by a completely irrelevant jibe
then concluded by a completely irrelevant jibe
Can someone please explain how it is spiteful to publicly wonder how a person gets a job for which they have no qualifications, in an industry where they have no experience?
But it's ok to say that 12 years ago she wore a funny hat. Different level of debate, I guess.
It seems to be OK for Royalists to criticise H& M for what they have openly said & done but not OK for those, who do not revere the royals, to be critical of less senior members of the firm for faffing about in a 'job' for which they have no knowledge or experience. Or being critical of a mature man , photographed associating with a teenage girl in the company of convicted sex traffickers, who subsequently pays a huge sum of money to avoid a court case. 
The funny hat was 11 years ago actually not 12.
The point was Beatrice graciously turned the criticism into something good and didn't throw her toys out of the pram.
Oh no. All my arguments are as nothing. How shall I get through the day ?
PECS. Has anyone defended Andrew on this thread ?
You think mocking a woman for crying at her grandfather’s
memorial service is fair criticism?
Yes. Posters have said he was only guilty by public opinion.
I think perhaps volver’s comment has had enough criticism by now ! Maybe it was a tad below the belt
however the job thing I do agree with
It wasn't my comment about why she cried. 
It was someone else...
In fact on another thread a few days ago I said how sorry I was to see her so upset. 
Yes it is spiteful when previous posts ostensibly concern the attendance of grandchildren at the memorial service for their grandfather.
The suitability or otherwise of a specific grandchild for a means of employment are completely irrelevant in this context, simply added in an attempt to demean that person.
Lucca. I have a different opinion on the Andrew affair than others so will not comment,
It’s true that people are given jobs because of a parent or family.
One doesn’t have to be a royalist to be shocked at mocking that
woman’s grief.
I think these threads on the royals are a game for a small number who post, I ignore these
Gilly3
The funny hat was 11 years ago actually not 12.
The point was Beatrice graciously turned the criticism into something good and didn't throw her toys out of the pram.
Exactly.
She rose above it instead of acting like a victim.
Oh no Volver, did you say something about liking baggy clothes or white trainers and floral dresses ? So nasty of you….
Bingo.
volver
It wasn't my comment about why she cried.
It was someone else...
In fact on another thread a few days ago I said how sorry I was to see her so upset.
I’m so sorry Volver. Brain a bit iffy at the moment.
Anniebach
*Lucca*. I have a different opinion on the Andrew affair than others so will not comment,
It’s true that people are given jobs because of a parent or family.
One doesn’t have to be a royalist to be shocked at mocking that
woman’s grief.
I think these threads on the royals are a game for a small number who post, I ignore these
You ignore threads on the royals ???
Lucca
volver
It wasn't my comment about why she cried.
It was someone else...
In fact on another thread a few days ago I said how sorry I was to see her so upset.I’m so sorry Volver. Brain a bit iffy at the moment.
I checked sorry it was WWM2,
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